This Weekend's Fixtures & Stoke v Man City (10/11/12 March).

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Saturday, 10th March 2018
Manchester United v Liverpool, 12:30 http://i65.tinypic.com/aey1c9.jpg
Everton v Brighton & Hove Albion, 15:00
Huddersfield Town v Swansea City, 15:00
Newcastle United v Southampton, 15:00
West Bromwich Albion v Leicester City, 15:00
West Ham United v Burnley, 15:00
Chelsea v Crystal Palace, 17:30 http://i64.tinypic.com/142wu9h.png

Sunday, 11th March 2018
Arsenal v Watford, 13:30 http://i65.tinypic.com/aey1c9.jpg
Bournemouth v Tottenham Hotspur, 16:00 http://i65.tinypic.com/aey1c9.jpg

Monday, 12th March 2018
Stoke City v Manchester City, 20:00 http://i65.tinypic.com/aey1c9.jpg

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As it stands looks even worse this week. :lol:

[Marc Overmars]

So much hype for United and Liverpool yet it is undoubtedly the dullest big fixture of recent years.

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Man Utd: de Gea, Valencia, Smalling, Bailly, Young, McTominay, Matic, Mata, Rashford, Lukaku, Sanchez.
Subs: Lindelof, Lingard, Carrick, Romero, Shaw, Fellaini, Darmian.

Liverpool: Karius, Alexander-Arnold, Lovren, van Dijk, Robertson, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Milner, Can, Salah, Firmino, Mane.
Subs: Wijnaldum, Gomez, Henderson, Lallana, Mignolet, Solanke, Matip.

Referee: Craig Pawson (South Yorkshire)

Pogba has the same injury Bellerin does I think.

[HCZ]

Man Utd: de Gea, Valencia, Smalling, Bailly, Young, McTominay, Matic, Mata, Rashford, Lukaku, Sanchez.
Subs: Lindelof, Lingard, Carrick, Romero, Shaw, Fellaini, Darmian.

Liverpool: Karius, Alexander-Arnold, Lovren, van Dijk, Robertson, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Milner, Can, Salah, Firmino, Mane.
Subs: Wijnaldum, Gomez, Henderson, Lallana, Mignolet, Solanke, Matip.

Referee: Craig Pawson (South Yorkshire)

Pogba has the same injury Bellerin does I think.

Milner in midfield?

Liverpool clearly don’t want to win

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Lukaku lumbering.

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Terrible corner from Salah.

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Man Utd 1-0 Liverpool, Rashford!

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Route One hoofball.

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What a goal, what a finish! Great technique. It's a terrible goal to give away, a Sunday League goal really. What was Alexander-Arnold doing? But what a reaction from Rashford.

Chris Waddle. :doh:

[Goonermerree]

Come on Liverpool beat Sanchez. I'm feeling vindictive, judgemental and jealous today, maybe I need to go back to bed and try again tomorrow.:(
Oops 2 nil United

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Man Utd 2-0 Liverpool, Rashford with his second.

Klopp. :lol:

[Goonermerree]

Come on Liverpool beat Sanchez. I'm feeling vindictive, judgemental and jealous today, maybe I need to go back to bed and try again tomorrow.:(
Oops 2 nil United

On the other hand - Ox :pal:

[Cripps]

Liverpool :doh:

[Thierrymon]

Ox :console:

[Cripps]

This is where Liverpool need an out and out striker. No focal point, no leading man up top, just passing it round the sides and attacking midfielders running down channels. Utd coping with them easy.

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Mata goes for the spectacular and fails.

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Milner gets knocked out by Rashford.

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2-0 HT.

[Cripps]

Klopp needs to change it at half time. He's not a manager with a plan B usually. Can he do it?

[Marc Overmars]

Rashford is great.

Hope Mourinho ruins him.

[Cripps]

Why is Lovren on Lukaku? :doh:

They've spent on a £75m powerhouse defender :doh:

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Van Dijk clears another one.

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Ox shot, deflects tamely behind.

[Niall_Quinn]

Horribly ironic that Young gets away with conceding a pen there because Salah doesn't dive. Young would have hit the deck in a split second and he've had got his penalty. The cheats are being rewarded and the honest players are being penalised. These ridiculous refs will play the stupid "there was a touch" rule all day long, even though that's not in the rules, but only if the player goes down. The refs are just as responsible as the players for all the cheating going on.

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Massive appeal for handball, nothing given.

[Niall_Quinn]

Ref and the linos, totally incompetent. That's 2 pens waved away now.

[Niall_Quinn]

I guess now they have successfully sabotaged VAR it's back to business for these refs. Player literally thrown to the ground, but no foul. Ref is digging in and playing the 12th man for Maureen's second half stifling and wrecking tactics.

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Ox hauled off, Lallana on.

Ox isn't best pleased. :lol:

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Milner belts it miles away.

Another pelanty shout?

[Niall_Quinn]

Ref has been great for Utd this half. He's like a shield in front of that Utd back 10.

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Man Utd 2-1 Liverpool, BAILLY OG!!!!

:haha:

[Cripps]

YES:pray:

[Niall_Quinn]

What a goal by Baily!

2-1

[Niall_Quinn]

Now he's gone down suffering from acute embarrassment.

[Niall_Quinn]

Loobrush coming on :haha:

Embarrassing :haha:

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Bailly temporarily injured with embarrassment.

Rashford off, Fellaini on.

Fans boo the decision. :haha:

[Niall_Quinn]

Rashford off :haha:

Maureen :haha:

[Cripps]

How useless is Lovren?

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Ref asking if Klopp called him a wanker. :haha:

[Niall_Quinn]

Liverpool playing like us today. Ponderous. Slow. unimaginative.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Alexander-Arnold off, Wijnaldum on.

[Niall_Quinn]

Officious twats enjoying their officious twatish moment.

[Goonermerree]

I'm surprised that Fellaini still plays for United.

[Niall_Quinn]

Shoot Firmino FFS!

[Niall_Quinn]

Clear pen. Loobrush brings him down. Accidental but a certain pen. The pundits are trying to claim it was Loobrush that was fouled :haha:

Very corrupt officials. Nothing new there.

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Robertson off, Solanke on.

All out attack. :bow:

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I'm surprised that Fellaini still plays for United.

With Mourinho at the helm?

[Goonermerree]

With Mourinho at the helm?

But he's been there since Moyes brought him there.

[Cripps]

Mourinho the prick knew exactly what to do as soon as Liverpool scored. Bailly went down injured then he bought Fellaini on to slow the game down further. Took the sting out the game and now Liverpool have been useless since.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Fight fight fight!

[Cripps]

Smalling down now :rolleyes:

[Cripps]

There should be at least 5 minutes added time. More like 6-7 though.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Smalling with an injury to the pillar and the stones.

[Niall_Quinn]

Ref. What a cheat :haha:

How blatant can you get?

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Mata off, Lingard on.

[Niall_Quinn]

Mourinho the prick knew exactly what to do as soon as Liverpool scored. Bailly went down injured then he bought Fellaini on to slow the game down further. Took the sting out the game and now Liverpool have been useless since.

Totally cynical. It works but it just stinks. And bribing the ref too, when you are 2-0 up.

[Cripps]

Another sub :rolleyes:

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Valencia with the big boot to Mane, only booked.

[Niall_Quinn]

Loobrush should be off now. Twice he's thrown a punch. Didn't connect but the intent was there on both occasions. He's an absolute pubber, good for one thing and one thing only - wrecking football. Which is why he's thrived under Maureen.

[Cripps]

High foot, reckless, not in control. 100% red.

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Wijnaldum shoots, deflects behind.

[Niall_Quinn]

Another Utd red waved away. Boot up, head height, aimed at the player. Totally deliberate.

[Cripps]

Milner :haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Six added minutes.

[Cripps]

There should be at least 5 minutes added time. More like 6-7 though.

:bow:

[Cripps]

DIVE YOU IDIOT!

[Cripps]

mane has been useless today

[Cripps]

Salah :doh:

[Cripps]

Klopp chokes on big stage again :ninja:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

2-1 FT.

Alexis hauled off for being a bit shit near the end.

[Niall_Quinn]

Maureen and his ref bore and thug their way to a result.

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Newcastle 2-0 Southampton, Kenedy with both.

WBA 1-1 Leicester, Rondon and Vardy.

J Ayew sent off for Swansea.

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Newcastle 3-0 Southampton, Ritchie.

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Everton 1-0 Brighton, Theo.

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Ah changed to a Bong OG now!

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WBA 1-2 Leicester, Mahrez.

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'Ammers 0-1 Burnley, Barnes. :doh:

[Goonermerree]

wham 0 - Burnley 2

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'Ammers fans are kicking off.

Cunts.

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WBA 1-3 Leicester, Iheneacho.

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Everton 2-0 Brighton, Tosun.

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Knockaert sent off.

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0-3 Wood got a second. Owners escorted out for their own safety of the 'Ammers ahem fans.

What about Moyes?

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Wazza pelanty saved. :haha:

WBA 1-4 Leicester, Iborra.

Pardiola. :haha:

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Come on Palace.

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1-0 Willian.

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2-0 Kelly OG.

Woy. :doh:

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How has Bif not scored?

Also disallowed goal for Hazard.

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2-1 in the end. Van Aanholt with the consolation.

[Cripps]

West Ham fans :bow:

Proper protests :bow:

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Hart on that third goal. :haha:

Utter shite.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Bournemouth: Begovic, Francis, S. Cook, Ake, Daniels, A. Smith, L. Cook, Gosling, Stanislas, Mousset, Wilson.

Spuds: Lloris, Aurier, Sanchez, Vertonghen, Rose, Wanyama, Dembele, Eriksen, Dele, Son, Kane.

[Niall_Quinn]

COME ON BOURNEMOUTH!

FFS

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Aguero is dead for two weeks.

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Can Son deliver on Mother's Day?

Andy Hinchcliffe. :doh:

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What a miss from Stanislas!!!

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Gosling. :haha:

What a scuffer.

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Bournemouth 1-0 Spuds, STANISLAS!!! :haha:

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Spuds have turned up in full-on collapse mode.

Dybala. :bow:

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Disallowed goal for Kane.

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Dele Alli. :haha:

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Kane off injured. :lol:

Lamela on.

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1-1 Dele Alli dives it in. You couldn't make it up.

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1-1 HT.

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Good save from Lloris.

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Rose's crossing has been hilarious.

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Dele Alli dive. :lol:

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Aurier. :haha:

Only needed some control!

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Gosling dropped the Ashes.

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Ridiculous dive from Rose.

Gosling booked.

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Bournemouth 1-2 Spuds, Son. What a scuffer! :haha:

[LDG]

The spirit of Klinsmann

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Mousset off, King on.

Daniels off, Ibe on.

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Stanislas volley, straight at Lloris.

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Son was offside. :rolleyes:

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Francis smacks it over.

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Stanislas off, Agent Defoe on. :pray:

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Rose hauled off, he clearly doesn't want to be there anymore, Trippier on.

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Disallowed goal for Wilson.

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Dele Alli off injured. :lol:

Sissoko on.

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Bournemouth 1-3 Spuds, Son with his second. :doh:

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1-4 Aurier.

Good going Begovic.

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1-4 FT. It's a bollocks league when you have a good team.

[Mac76]

i can't be the only one hoping K**t's injury is a very bad one surely? without him for the rest of the season Spuds will surely start falling down the table - we may even get a St Totteringham's day after all ... :yippee:

[Goonermerree]

i can't be the only one hoping K**t's injury is a very bad one surely? without him for the rest of the season Spuds will surely start falling down the table - we may even get a St Totteringham's day after all ... :yippee:

I don't like to wish very bad injuries on anyone after the ones our players have had. Son Will just step in and anyway, we need him fit for England for the WC.

[GP]

I don't like to wish very bad injuries on anyone after the ones our payers have had. Son Will just step in and anyway, we need him fit for England for the WC.

Do we? :lol:

I hope his leg falls off.

[HCZ]

Spit the dog has been suspended by Sky

[Goonermerree]

Spit the dog has been suspended by Sky

Who saw that coming? Whatever possessed him to do that? Oh, I know he's a ******

[Niall_Quinn]

Many of these players would have spent their careers nicking hubcaps if they hadn't made it in football. Carragher's one of them. Rooney too. Scumbags. But they earn a ton of cash, get dressed up in an ill-fitting suit and suddenly they are respectable by modern standards. But it's all for show.

Remember that scum Shearer? When he kicked that player in the head? Could have killed him. Now he's a "respectable" presenter on the BBC.

With somebody like Joey Barton, at least you know what you are getting. He's honest in a way the other scumbags aren't.

[Mac76]

Remember that scum Shearer? When he kicked that player in the head? Could have killed him. Now he's a "respectable" presenter on the BBC.


not to mention elbowing that defender and ruling out Campbell's header against Argentina - still don't understand why he isn't reminded about that on a daily basis, or at least whenever he says 'oh that wasn't a foul' when a striker is shown beating up a defender on MOTD...

[Marc Overmars]

Carragher. :lol:

If he’s allowed back I’m definitely going to tune in to the MNF with Neville. #banter

[HCZ]

Carragher. :lol:

If he’s allowed back I’m definitely going to tune in to the MNF with Neville. #banter

Be the northern equivalent of Richard Richard and Edward Hitler

[Goonermerree]

Carragher. :lol:

If he’s allowed back I’m definitely going to tune in to the MNF with Neville. #banter

Doubt if he will be, it was a ridiculous thing to do without much provocation.

[Niall_Quinn]

Bint trying to get him sacked :haha:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jslANrkXJfs

Vinnie Jones and Joey Barton asked for their views :haha:

Adolf Hitler and Joe Stalin were both unavailable for comment because they are dead. But if they had been alive, I'm sure they'd be disgusted.

And did you hear the poor girl crying in the back of the car?

No, neither did I.

Well done dad, using your kid to set up a pay day. Nice one.

A real scumfest this one.

Sky TV, monster creation of the appalling Murdochs. Should they or shouldn't they sack him for this atrocity? Or maybe give him a job reporting on WMD in Iraq?

It's fascinating watching people and how fake they are. Sanctimonious sinners one and all, and so eager to leap into jackal virtue signalling mode when a wounded pack member gets separated.

[HCZ]

Bint trying to get him sacked :haha:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jslANrkXJfs

Vinnie Jones and Joey Barton asked for their views :haha:

Adolf Hitler and Joe Stalin were both unavailable for comment because they are dead. But if they had been alive, I'm sure they'd be disgusted.

And did you hear the poor girl crying in the back of the car?

No, neither did I.

Well done dad, using your kid to set up a pay day. Nice one.

A real scumfest this one.

Sky TV, monster creation of the appalling Murdochs. Should they or shouldn't they sack him for this atrocity? Or maybe give him a job reporting on WMD in Iraq?

It's fascinating watching people and how fake they are. Sanctimonious sinners one and all, and so eager to leap into jackal virtue signalling mode when a wounded pack member gets separated.

Couldn’t care less about the so called “victims”

But don’t spit at people, you’re not a camel

End of the day rightly or wrongly if you are high profile you can’t get away with that shit.

Should the guy in the other car be suspended from his job?.

No but only because he doesn’t have one

[Niall_Quinn]

Couldn’t care less about the so called “victims”

But don’t spit at people, you’re not a camel

End of the day rightly or wrongly if you are high profile you can’t get away with that shit.

Should the guy in the other car be suspended from his job?.

No but only because he doesn’t have one

Wonder how much money it will take to cover his anguish and suffering?

If somebody did that to my daughter I wouldn't be tutting and running through profit making schemes in my head. I'd be sticking close behind the cunt until he ran out of petrol.

[Niall_Quinn]

And I'm certainly not condoning Carragher's behaviour, which is likely far from a one-off moment of madness as suggested by the guy in the video.

But I think I despise even more the self righteous pricks who crawl out of the woodwork to jostle for the best spots on the virtue platform. People are so pure when somebody else has fucked up.

[HCZ]

And I'm certainly not condoning Carragher's behaviour, which is likely far from a one-off moment of madness as suggested by the guy in the video.

But I think I despise even more the self righteous pricks who crawl out of the woodwork to jostle for the best spots on the virtue platform. People are so pure when somebody else has fucked up.

Read Jon Ronson’s so you’ve been publically shamed

It’s a good book on that subject

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Sky's programme is on in a minute. :popcorn:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Actually no it isn't, it's not until 19:30! :haha:

They obviously couldn't get anybody else in to analyse.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Disgusting.

Neither come out of it with any dignity. The only one who does is the poor kid.

Had to laugh that Joey Barton was wheeled out for comments though. Barton FFS.


Anyway, come on Sto.... ah who cares.

[HCZ]

They should bring Duncan Ferguson in to replace Carragher

[Cripps]

They've overblown it like he's killed someone. Headline news:lol:

People love a good story, moan and headline nowadays:lol:

[HCZ]

Watched the video of that just now

That bloke does not give one solitary shit that his daughter was spat on, especially considering that he wound him up and caused it to happen

“Don’t you dare change out of your clothes or wash your hair and face when you get in, I’m going to milk this for all it’s worth”

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Now Sky's clean up is on.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

They're at the stadium. :haha:

Neville is there.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

http://i64.tinypic.com/2el74m8.jpg

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Stoke: Butland, Bauer, Allen, Zouma, Choupo-Moting, Jese, Martins Indi, Cameron, Stafylidis, Shaqiri, Ndiaye.

Citeh: Ederson; Walker, Kompany, Otamendi, Zinchenko; Fernandinho, D.Silva, De Bruyne; Sterling, Jesus, Sane.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

0-1 David Silva. :sleep:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I feel this game should be at more than 0-1. Defending has been horrible.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Pellegrino sacked :rose:

Marco Silva to step in and not save another relegation threatened team?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Somebody watch Merse and his chair.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

0-2 David Silva again.

[Cripps]

Thank you city :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Sterling can't score from a yard out.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Otamendi has to be booked for that surely?

Jese hauled off, Crouch on.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

What a miss from Indi! :doh:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Kompany. :haha:

Embarrassing.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Walker. :haha:

Useless.

[Cripps]

He deserved that. He was looking for the red card :pal:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Sterling. :haha:

Oh dear. Through on goal and doesn't do anything with it.

[Cripps]

Ok maybe not :lol:

He got hacked down :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Sterling hauled off, B. Silva on.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

David Silva hauled off, Gundogan on.

Five added minutes.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

0-2 FT.

This stupid procession is nearing its end.

[Cripps]

A bad few days for NQ :lol:

City win

Wenger gets 2 wins on the trot

Tommy Robinson gets beaten up

:lol: :console:

[Marc Overmars]

2 wins from the title and we’re not even half way through March.

Insane.

[Cripps]

Carra's spitting made BBC news at 10 :lol:

Journos were waiting for him at Euston when he got off the train :lol:

This country :doh:

[Xhaka Can’t]

I can’t wait for the Panorama special.

[Letters]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43376262

To be fair he does seem very sorry for getting caught.

[Marc Overmars]

He seems to well up in the Sky interview when the host asked him how his kids feel about it.

He’s fucked up and he knows it but the witch hunt is a bit much. Can’t see him coming back from this, PR is everything and his reputation is in the gutter.

[Letters]

Thing is, he knew he was on video. What did he think was going to happen? :doh:

[Niall_Quinn]

A bad few days for NQ :lol:

City win

Wenger gets 2 wins on the trot

Tommy Robinson gets beaten up

:lol: :console:

Arab money won.

Wenger is staying whether we win, lose or draw.

And Robinson kicked 10 of their arses and it might as well have been 20 given the worth of those girly boys.

So a normal week really.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Kompany thinks it's a once in a lifetime opportunity winning the title against Man Utd. :lol:

We done it twice mate, in 11 years.

Also, why did Carragher wind his window down? It feels this is another one off Wenger's hitlist in the media that had been calling for him to be sacked. :ninja:

[Letters]

Also, why did Carragher wind his window down?
Umm. He probably didn't want to spit on the inside of his window?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

He did that before he heard the 2-1 comment though?

[Niall_Quinn]

Suggest something was going on beforehand. Maybe he cut him up or something. Or was gesturing at him.

Whatever, awlful dad. Behaves like a prick in front of his daughter. Drives dangerously with his daughter in the car. Then doesn't seem to give a shit when his daughter gets a gobful of spit in her face. Then drags the whole thing through the media. Not your dad of the year, tbf.

But he'll get some of Carragher's cash, and that's the main thing.

[Cripps]

That dad definetly voted Brexit.

[Letters]

People are acting like Carragher got a sub-machine gun, went into the nearest Primary School and went postal.
Media circuses :bow:

[KSE Comedy Club]

That dad definetly voted Brexit.

Good choice :good:

[KSE Comedy Club]

People are acting like Carragher got a sub-machine gun, went into the nearest Primary School and went postal.
Media circuses :bow:

I thought that was generally the way it goes in Liverpool :coffee:

[HCZ]

That dad definetly voted Brexit.

He wouldn’t have voted

[HCZ]

I thought that was generally the way it goes in Liverpool :coffee:

I bloody hope not my nephew goes to primary school there

[Cripps]

Good choice :good:

NQ's 5th account :bow:

[Niall_Quinn]

That dad definetly voted Brexit.

Nah. It's the Remoaners who like to divest personal responsibility in return for handouts. He deffo voted for Germany.

[Niall_Quinn]

I bloody hope not my nephew goes to primary school there

Well take the gun off him then.

[Marc Overmars]

Carragher to remain suspended for the rest of the season. :lol:

I'm guessing he'll be back in August once it has blown over.

[Cripps]

The dad not being charged.

Common sense prevails.

[Marc Overmars]

He should at least be fined and given penalty points, which is the standard punishment for anyone caught using their phone when driving.

[Cripps]

The isse was Carragher spitting. As usual the outrage brigade quickly switched attention to the dad using his phone. He should be thrown in jail one said :lol:

[Letters]

Using a phone while driving is illegal :shrug:

[Niall_Quinn]

The isse was Carragher spitting. As usual the outrage brigade quickly switched attention to the dad using his phone. He should be thrown in jail one said :lol:

Come off it.

The whole thing was a stitch up. He chases down Carragher, starts having a go, has a camera out (there's your major clue) and then seems positively delighted when he gets the reaction. Then uses his daughter to get the sympathy vote.

Total scumbag.

He's dumb enough to break the law on camera and if we have to have poxy governments and coppers and bullshit laws then everyone should be victimised equally. Of course he should be done. Why wouldn't he be done? When Carragher spit was the law rescinded? So what possible reason could there be for not prosecuting him?

[Letters]

He was goading him hoping for a reaction, but Carragher knew he was being filmed and was an idiot.
In brief, two idiots.

[Niall_Quinn]

I think everyone agrees by default Carragher is an idiot - we knew that before this incident anyway.

But the scumbag fake father is getting off pretty easily and he'll end up quids in. Smart I suppose, in a weasel kind of way.

[Niall_Quinn]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5498929/Jamie-Carragher-face-fine-six-months-jail.html

(Im)possible jail sentence for spitting? :haha:

Nah, he has too much cash to go to jail. Courts are always after cash and they'll probably do well out of this.

But is anyone going to try to claim this Hughes bloke isn't a complete fucking arsehole?

Look at the cunt lapping it all up. Probably the best thing that has ever happened to him.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/03/14/09/4A258CC400000578-5498929-image-a-1_1521019597416.jpg

And tbf to Jamie-lad, it would be hard to miss the daughter. Chuck something up in the air from 40 miles away and you're likely to nick her with it on the way down.

But, get this, they're Welsh!

Yes? See that?

Welsh FFS! And nobody seem to be complaining about that.

[Niall_Quinn]

BBC presenter Jeremy Vine said in a tweet that the person filming Carragher should be jailed for using a mobile at the wheel.


The Radio 2 host hit out at Carragher, branding his actions 'disgusting' and 'certainly sackable' but implied that using a phone on the motorway was worse as the man should go 'straight to jail'.


He wrote: 'Spitting: disgusting, possibly criminal, certainly sackable.


'Filming on a mobile while driving a car with a child in the back, on a motorway, paying no attention whatsoever to the road: straight to jail.'


Nasty little fascist.

Who was harmed, you stupid cunt? Where's the harmed party?

These stuck-up tools who think jail is the answer for anyone who might inconvenience their dinner party existence make my skin crawl.

Somebody cuts him up with their trolley in the Waitrose fine wines section?

JAIL!

Somebody parks 1 inch over the kerb outside his drive when everybody fucking knows he's having Sir Fuckwit the local MP around for cocktails (because he sent out a leaflet announcing it to the street)?

Fucking JAIL! Throw away the key.

Now if the idiot driving and using his phone had crashed the car and injured somebody, fair enough. His negligence would have resulted in actual harm and so there ought to be consequences. But nobody was harmed so shut the fuck up.

And shop at Tesco you cunt. Find out how the real middle middle and lower middle classes live!

[Letters]

Now if the idiot driving and using his phone had crashed the car and injured somebody, fair enough. His negligence would have resulted in actual harm and so there ought to be consequences. But nobody was harmed so shut the fuck up.

Interesting. So you think that the punishment should be determined by the consequences, not the action?
So if someone tries to shoot you but misses then it's fine, no-one was harmed so no harm done?

Obviously neither of them should go to jail, but he should be fined and have points on his licence.

[Mac76]

Now if the idiot driving and using his phone had crashed the car and injured somebody, fair enough.

the whole point is if you fine someone for potentially causing an accident that is a much greater deterrent than waiting until they actually cause the accident

It's about preventing the crime and harm to others, rather than being just about punishing people after they've already caused the harm

[Niall_Quinn]

Interesting. So you think that the punishment should be determined by the consequences, not the action?
So if someone tries to shoot you but misses then it's fine, no-one was harmed so no harm done?

Obviously neither of them should go to jail, but he should be fined and have points on his licence.

Silly argument.

If somebody deliberately shoots a gun at you they must be trying to kill you. That's attempted murder. There intent and there's an intended victim. And the harm doesn't need to be physical.

For your analogy to be useful the guy would have to jump in his car and grab a phone with the intent of harming somebody. He didn't. No crime. So the stupid cunt Vine wants him to be charged with a pre-crime.

Politicians and judges should go to jail for raping children, don't you think? Rather than think up new pre-crime laws for the rest of us.

[Niall_Quinn]

the whole point is if you fine someone for potentially causing an accident that is a much greater deterrent than waiting until they actually cause the accident

It's about preventing the crime and harm to others, rather than being just about punishing people after they've already caused the harm

That might be the whole point, but no crime has been committed regardless. A statute has been breached, but that's not real law.

And this particular statute is not there to prevent crimes but rather to prevent accidents. A totally different intent. Even so, if you want to apply both the letter and the spirit of a law you can't go around jailing people for what they might do. That doesn't stop our cunty trumped up political scumbags trying it on though. They pretend their laws are real and we pretend the same, that's all that is happening here.

Vine's a nasty little fascist dick either way.

[Letters]

Silly argument.

If somebody deliberately shoots a gun at you they must be trying to kill you. That's attempted murder. There intent and there's an intended victim. And the harm doesn't need to be physical.

For your analogy to be useful the guy would have to jump in his car and grab a phone with the intent of harming somebody. He didn't. No crime. So the stupid cunt Vine wants him to be charged with a pre-crime.

Politicians and judges should go to jail for raping children, don't you think? Rather than think up new pre-crime laws for the rest of us.

OK. Fine. Intent is a reasonable point.
So if I go out blindfolded then and start shooting randomly. Should I only be prosecuted if I hit someone?
If I didn't then, well, I did something potentially dangerous but no-one got hurt so no harm done?

[Xhaka Can’t]

Suggest something was going on beforehand. Maybe he cut him up or something. Or was gesturing at him.

Whatever, awlful dad. Behaves like a prick in front of his daughter. Drives dangerously with his daughter in the car. Then doesn't seem to give a shit when his daughter gets a gobful of spit in her face. Then drags the whole thing through the media. Not your dad of the year, tbf.


https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180314/54736cb68f50ce471f3b21db4081c693.jpg

[Niall_Quinn]

OK. Fine. Intent is a reasonable point.
So if I go out blindfolded then and start shooting randomly. Should I only be prosecuted if I hit someone?
If I didn't then, well, I did something potentially dangerous but no-one got hurt so no harm done?

That depends. If you're in the outbacks of Alaska on a lone hike then no. If you live in the middle of a busy street then sure. You couldn't possibly argue a case for accident under those circumstances. There's still a clear intent there, firing a gun in a crowded place is highly likely to cause injury or death and only a fool would think otherwise. Which is why we have defence options based on insanity and mental instability.

It seems you aren't capable of viewing law and order from a humanitarian or libertarian viewpoint. Instead you seem caught up in the phoney declarations from real criminals who claim they are entitled to make up laws as they go. In fact I doubt you can even tell the difference between a criminal and a citizen any more because just about everyone is a criminal in one form or another. What's that saying that talks about breaking a whole bunch of laws every day without even realising it? That's what happens when you have an endless flow of fake law. All of it (all of it) is designed to enrich the state in one form or another (apart from the natural and legitimate law that was there long before these cunts arrived in their fancy dress).

So you'll probably say driving with a phone is similar to firing a gun around the place. Of course it's not, but let's accept the faulty argument.

How many people die or are injured as a result of mobile phone usage while driving?

Now compare that to the number of people harmed or killed through driving in general.

Conclusion. Driving should be banned and all drivers should be jailed. It's dangerous and people could get killed as a result - and the evidence is there to prove it.

In fact that's exactly what these cunts are cooking up for us. Driverless cars. The implications are mid blowing in terms of liberty, but most will only see the badge on the car I suppose.

The bottom line. Maybe 1 in a million people jumps in a car with the intent of harming somebody. Made up stat because it's not the sort of thing that's measured. The ony "safety" regulations that are measured and enforced are the ones that make a few cunts richer. I think we all know that don't we? If we're honest.

[Cripps]

Oh FFS don't you two start again.

[Niall_Quinn]

Oh FFS don't you two start again.

Do you want us to discuss, in detail, the tactics of Wenger's midfield?

Well shut it then.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Oh FFS don't you two start again.

Post of the week

[Letters]

How many people die or are injured as a result of mobile phone usage while driving?
Now compare that to the number of people harmed or killed through driving in general.
Conclusion. Driving should be banned and all drivers should be jailed.
It's dangerous and people could get killed as a result - and the evidence is there to prove it.
This is a stupid argument which no-one is making.

Driving is a potentially dangerous activity.
So, like any potentially dangerous activity it should be assessed how it should be regulated to minimise the risks as far as possible.
It would be nice if everyone was sensible and could be trusted to drive safely but they aren't.
This is why we have speed limits.
They are not there because "the man" is out to restrict your liberty. It's to make things safer for everyone. Personally I think the limits are pretty ridiculous at times, they come from a time when cars didn't brake so efficiently and could do with some reviewing. But I think there should be some limits because there are some idiots who would tear around dangerously.

It's pretty reasonable that people should be expected to pay attention when they're driving. Using mobile phones while driving is clearly a distraction so I'm on board with there being laws against it.
You asked for some statistics. Here:

https://www.edgarsnyder.com/car-accident/cause-of-accident/cell-phone/cell-phone-statistics.html



The National Safety Council reports that cell phone use while driving leads to 1.6 million crashes each year.
Nearly 330,000 injuries occur each year from accidents caused by texting while driving.
1 out of every 4 car accidents in the United States is caused by texting and driving.
Texting while driving is 6x more likely to cause an accident than driving drunk.
Answering a text takes away your attention for about five seconds. Traveling at 55 mph, that's enough time to travel the length of a football field.
Texting while driving causes a 400% increase in time spent with eyes off the road.
Of all cell phone related tasks, texting is by far the most dangerous activity.
94% of drivers support a ban on texting while driving.
74% of drivers support a ban on hand-held cell phone use.

So yeah, I don't think it's an outrageous restriction of your liberty that you're not allowed to get your phone out and play Candy Crush while you're driving.
It's not really about intent here. I'm sure the bloke wasn't intending to harm anyone by videoing while driving but it is potentially dangerous and distracting.
How can he possibly have been properly concentrating on driving if he was doing that?

Above you called him scum and said he should "be done". What are you arguing now?

[Niall_Quinn]

This is a stupid argument which no-one is making.

Driving is a potentially dangerous activity.
So, like any potentially dangerous activity it should be assessed how it should be regulated to minimise the risks as far as possible.
It would be nice if everyone was sensible and could be trusted to drive safely but they aren't.
This is why we have speed limits.
They are not there because "the man" is out to restrict your liberty. It's to make things safer for everyone. Personally I think the limits are pretty ridiculous at times, they come from a time when cars didn't brake so efficiently and could do with some reviewing. But I think there should be some limits because there are some idiots who would tear around dangerously.

It's pretty reasonable that people should be expected to pay attention when they're driving. Using mobile phones while driving is clearly a distraction so I'm on board with there being laws against it.
You asked for some statistics. Here:

https://www.edgarsnyder.com/car-accident/cause-of-accident/cell-phone/cell-phone-statistics.html



So yeah, I don't think it's an outrageous restriction of your liberty that you're not allowed to get your phone out and play Candy Crush while you're driving.
It's not really about intent here. I'm sure the bloke wasn't intending to harm anyone by videoing while driving but it is potentially dangerous and distracting.
How can he possibly have been properly concentrating on driving if he was doing that?

Above you called him scum and said he should "be done". What are you arguing now?

The argument is too complex for you.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Are you talking to me?

Because a lot of people say that.

[Niall_Quinn]

Are you talking to me?

Because a lot of people say that.

I'm talking to the monkey, not the organ grinder.

Which kind of makes me the stupidest person of all.

[Letters]

The argument is too complex for you.

I really can't tell if you're a stupid person pretending to be a bright person or the opposite.
:lol:

[Niall_Quinn]

I really can't tell if you're a stupid person pretending to be a bright person or the opposite.
:lol:

Doesn't surprise me. I'm sure there are many things that confuse you.

[Letters]

Being called stupid by someone who repeatedly shows they can't understand any more than two opinions on any given subject.
:lol:

Binary :bow:
Nuance :rose:

[Niall_Quinn]

Being called stupid by someone who repeatedly shows they can't understand any more than two opinions on any given subject.
:lol:

Binary :bow:
Nuance :rose:

Stop floundering around. Either go back and read the thread again and come back with a sensible response that actually relates to the argument, or stop wasting our time.

[Xhaka Can’t]

I'm talking to the monkey, not the organ grinder.

Which kind of makes me the stupidest person of all.

A lot of people call me an organ grinder as well.

[Letters]

A lot of people call me an organ grinder as well.

It'll never stand up in court...