Originally Posted by
HCZ_Reborn
The point is in life that we do defer things to others even that which only affects us on an individual basis.
We have lawyers and accountants who make recommendations based on their expertise. We do operation to a degree of collectivisation even at the macro level…from neighbourhood watch schemes to work based lottery syndicates.
For me the main objection I can see is when the state demands it takes precedence over the commitment to self, to family etc.
For example the DPRK, I have no idea how true this is but a woman who’s house was on fire managed to save her children from the fire but was considered an enemy of the state because she had not put the effort into saving the portraits of the supreme leader (Kim Il Sung) and the dear leader (Kim Jong Il)
She was put in prison and was denied the chance to work to provide medicine for her badly injured children. What happened to them I’m not sure
For me this is a bug of the system of state, for someone like NQ this is a feature. That the state by its very existence is evil and oppressive and seeks to dilute the innate goodness in people and brainwash us into admiration towards the criminals who preside over us.
My contention has always been the James Madison approach - If men were Angels there would be no need of government but also must never lose sight of the additional clause “If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary”
We do absolutely need to guard against what control we relinquish over our lives