A disgustingly, scrappy, awful, open at the back filthy performance.
We're back and no longer pointless!
Printable View
A disgustingly, scrappy, awful, open at the back filthy performance.
We're back and no longer pointless!
All part of the master plan
I can't really find anything positive to take from that despite the win.
It was poor on every level, in every department.
I suppose Monreal once again showed he's the best finisher in the team and Lacazette made the attack a bit more fluid.
We can repeat once again that certain individuals being starters without fail every week is damaging to the future of the team. But being so unconvincing at home to West Ham no matter the personnel, is not an endorsement of the work done so far.
It does feel like very little has changed. But it's still only fair to have a bigger sample of games to judge the players and coaching staff on.
That was a shambles of a performance. We didn't control that game at all and were lucky to get all 3 points.
Horrible performance as already said. Thank fuhk for the points.
I don't know what this team does as far defense training. No excuse for this type of defending. Felipe Anderson was made to look World Class our there.
This high line nonsense, Bellerin getting no help. We got lucky Arnotovic and Antonio picked up knocks.. And West Ham are dogshite barring Anderson
Tweren't very pretty but it was a win.
Defense is still far to open. Hopefully it will get a little better until such a time we can invest properly in good defenders. If we can get a few wins while we improve that's good. Can't see a very good defense happening with this group. I really would prefer to see Lichtsteiner instead of Bellerin.
Xhaka was better today I thought. Not great but not totally outclassed like v Man city and Chelsea. A calm descended when torreira came on - for all his defensive qualities, he's also very good opening things up going forward.
Was Auba would start scoring....that was meant to save us early on while everything settled a bit. If he does his bit we're sitting on two wins our of three.
Also, have come back now in two games after going down. That's good to see. No folding when the chips are down. Just need more solidity at the back.
Just watched the highlights - if we’re going to play with both fullbacks that high all game then Torreira has got to be starting (and probably playing a full 90).
In fact we might as well play 3 CBs and stop even pretending that we’re using Bellerin and Monreal as defenders - would give us the extra man at the back we need to stop us getting outnumbered on counters, an effective shield in front of them who can also easily drop into those fullback areas, and would go some way to addressing our lack of natural wingers (at least temporarily).
Lacazette also has to be starting - something just seems to click when he’s on.
I really don’t think goals are going to be a problem for us, with or without Auba - we could have had 6 against Chelsea last week, even though they were the better side, and today we’ve grabbed another fairly easy 3 whilst being pretty average. There’s a certain routineness about most of the goals we’ve been scoring that I like - bread-and-butter plays that we look like we’ll be able to churn out ad nauseum before too much longer...
Terrible performance yesterday, it started with a terrible lineup again, Emery is creating a rod for his own back here, Xhaka picked again despite being awful, no Lacazette, if not for Ozil being out he'd still be playng the same team that he did in two games he lost before.
West Ham deserved better (Arnautovic getting injured was a lucky for Emery as the guy was running the show), they could have scored a hatful and beaten us, not impressed with Emery at all so far, defence is shambolic, he's doesn't change a thing, as someone said it could be like Wenger is in charge, I'm starting to think this guy is a just a yes man without a club what he's doing, why else would you keep picking the same team.
Wolves showed us how it was done by grabbing a draw against City when we lost and should have lost by 5 or 6! As has been mentioned Emery will get time, but not if he doesn't learn anything and keeps picking the losers Wenger kept picking, it's like he doesn't watch the matches.
Don't know what to make of the defence, full backs were good going forward but left a lot to be desired defensively, there's no kind of system and they don't show any signs of playing as a unit. Also wondering why we wasted 20 million on Leno if he's not going to get a game when we could have spent it elsewhere, seems utterly pointless!
It's still very early of course, but the fact that Emery keeps playing the same team is just plain stupid tbh and that's what bugs me the most, the rest will take time, whats clear is that half this team need selling off and replacing because they're just plain not good enough, defenders can't defend and midifelders offer no cover for defence, there's just no excuse for picking Xhaka again frankly.
Also playing a high line with Mustafi and Sokratis will never work, we've got no pace at the back at all, in a way signing Sokratis was a little strange, we needed more pace at the back.
On the plus side, people can't blame Ozil for this shambolic display today, so someone else will need to take the flack, also Mkitiryran seems to get off scott free every week, he's been every bit as bad as Ozil (for 3 games now), yes he scored last week (also missed an absolute sitter) but it didn't change the fact he's been poor, for 3 games now.
Emery does make substitution early at least which is a good thing, just think he needs to change the lineup and change the way the defence works, based on what we have and making us more solid.
I never thought I’d agree with Shearer and co on MOTD, but I think they had it right re: the defence - both fullbacks need to learn when to hold when the other goes forward, otherwise we’re basically playing with 2 defenders all game. Hardly surprising we’re giving away chances so easily.
Torreira also needs to start if we’re going to play with attacking fullbacks, as we need someone switched on and tactically disciplined in front of our minimal defence who can quickly spot (and cover) any gaps. Those two things alone would probably make a huge difference to our defending, and they should be very, very easy fixes.
Give it 10 games or so and see how the team is shaping up then. He may simply be giving some of the players enough rope to hang themselves in these early games so he can justify making the changes he wants once he’s settled on his best XI. Or he could still be stress-testing the squad to see what he’s really working with - training sessions and friendlies will only tell you so much, after all.
On the plus side, his in-game management and subs have been pretty sharp so far, and he hasn’t been afraid to hook big names (even at embarrassing moments), which makes me think that he isn’t as blind to what we’re all seeing as you fear. Also starting Guendouzi in every game is a pretty ballsy move, considering he’s a kid who has been here for 5 minutes, and there’s a lot of established names gunning for that same spot...
Just saw the match on MOTD, missed it yesterday. Another team with shooting boots on would have scored a few. We have to sort our defensive play out. Nacho my man showed them the way with our opener. Welbz took his chance well and finished like a, well like a striker. Three points but more improvement needed.
According to news on MOTD Ozil stormed off after being told he wouldn't be playing, denied of course by Emery. It's a good sign if Ozil gets mad at being dropped.
They said on MOTD that Emery/Arsenal said he had a cold. If that is true by the word....it's definitely a lie. How can a footballer miss games so often for a bleeding cold!
I'm sure he can play with a cold but he would be under par. If I was the manager and had a choice of a player under par or a player 100% fit, I would take the fit person for the next game. It is not Özil's choice if he plays, it is Emery's. Even if Özil wanted to play, he could not because he was not selected. You can't blame him for that.
Kinda. That's if Emery actually dropped him. If he's given him the day off because he is sick and allows him to waltz back into the starting line up.... It doesn't set a good precedence. With the amount of sick days Ozil has taken, he should lose his starting place even if true.
If Emery has actually dropped him and the sickie story is BS, I expect a serious change in Ozil's performance the next time selected. Emery will have to follow through with the threat otherwise it will appear empty and look weak. Should have made Ozil sit is ass on the bench.
I think the fact Emery said 'I don't know, you have to ask the Dr to know more'.....or something along those lines to the reporter, he's obviously hiding something.
It's not as if the manager of AFC hasn't communicated enough or spoke to the Dr about Ozil who only told him 'he's sick mate, he can't play'.
If he's dropped him for tactical reasons then that wouldn't suggest special treatment. If the 'bust up' did happen as a result he may have just made up the 'sick' story to cover. He presumably just wants to keep it all in-house, which I imagine he'd want to do with any player.
I posted this on another forum earlier
But im starting to wonder if Lacazette has some kinda hefty bonus in his contract based on minutes played. Cause something just hasn't felt right with his situation since he got here.
Pretty sure he had a clause in his contract that Southampton were to get some money if he played for more than 20 mins or something. Due to added time, we were paying more than we wanted to when he came on as a sub so he came on later. Can't remember the exact details.
That still doesn't quite follow. 'If' Ozil refused to be benched, that's a different situation to Ramsey who presumably didn't refuse to be benched.
The situation is unprecedented with this manager. He may be giving him special treatment but we don't really know that beyond doubt.
If he has refused to sit on the bench though, then in any case we have a major problem and I'd rather we didn't have him here.
But that's what I was originally getting out. It doesn't matter whether Ozil was benched for tactical reasons or not, he shouldn't be allowed to pull a sickie to avoid the bench. The manager shouldn't allow it either. Is that not special treatment to the others regardless of the reason the manager dropped him?
Not sure what's true, whether he was dropped or just left out because he was sick but it does put an extra scrutiny on the managers man management and Ozil which isn't great if performances don't change.
Well they way it's going it looks like it would have been cheaper for us to let him run out his contract unless we were hoping someone would bid for him during the summer.
Ozil doesn’t have the bottle to refuse to play or go against the manager in that way. He’s just one of those weak people who fall ill very easily.