Farce Reaction: Arsenal 1-2 (2-2) Olympiakos

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Originally Posted by Mac76

All we can say positively is that Auba is scoring again and we just need to hope that continues, but i do really hope Arteta throws on the kids on Monday and gives people a rest

We need to throw the FAC and focus on trying to get up the table as much as we can

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I very much doubt The FA Cup is going to affect our league form.

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Originally Posted by Mac76

All we can say positively is that Auba is scoring again and we just need to hope that continues, but i do really hope Arteta throws on the kids on Monday and gives people a rest

We need to throw the FAC and focus on trying to get up the table as much as we can

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Why? So we can get into the Europa Cup? Or if everyone collapses, the CL? Do we REALLY want to get into the CL? Wouldn't that be an embarrassment too far?

What we need to do is develop a whole new culture at the club (not a gay one either), replace half the team and develop a totally different style of play. Massive job to do here. That old goat devastated the club from top to bottom - the fucker didn't miss a nook or a cranny.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Why? So we can get into the Europa Cup? Or if everyone collapses, the CL? Do we REALLY want to get into the CL? Wouldn't that be an embarrassment too far?

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It's just that we need some hope to offer our better players, or we could lose some of them (i accept auba is now gone for sure anyway) plus not be able to shift losers like xhaka and mustafi on

Should be noted that the Greeks are CL dropouts.

We’d be eaten alive in the CL now. Those last 16 exits under Wenger will seem like the halcyon days.

We’re such a poor team, in almost every facet of the pitch. Not fit for purpose.

It's lazy to continually cite Xhaka and Mustafi as the main culprits when they've been solid in recent weeks.

Obviously, Mustafi should have gone a long time ago, but it's the nothing senior players in midfield and attack that are letting the team down the most.

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Originally Posted by Mac76

It's just that we need some hope to offer our better players, or we could lose some of them (i accept auba is now gone for sure anyway) plus not be able to shift losers like xhaka and mustafi on

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They probably all need to go anyway. We should focus on the kids. No big names will want to come here, unless they are YouTube talent like Pepe. And the senior lot have failed, failed and failed again. So start over with the kids. We should be getting ESR back. Getting AMN involved again. Giving Willock consistent game time. Getting Eddie and Marti settled as part of a 3 with Auba (until he goes). These players have shown more and done more in a much shorter time, and they don't carry Wenger baggage.

We're a mid-table team now and will be for the foreseeable future and we need to set our sights on the hard work of clawing back up the pecking order. If we somehow fluked a CL spot it wouldn't mean anything. It would just be a false dawn and another delay in doing what has to be done.

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Originally Posted by Master Splinter

It's lazy to continually cite Xhaka and Mustafi as the main culprits when they've been solid in recent weeks.

Obviously, Mustafi should have gone a long time ago, but it's the nothing senior players in midfield and attack that are letting the team down the most.

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Sadly and pathetically, they are probably our most consistent two right now, in terms of players that aren't randomly benched for no reason. And they aren't particularly good players. They wouldn't get a sniff at a starting spot for Pool or the gypos. Probably not even Utd. But that's our standard now.

72 mill on Pepe. Fuuuuuuck!

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

Should be noted that the Greeks are CL dropouts.

We’d be eaten alive in the CL now. Those last 16 exits under Wenger will seem like the halcyon days.

We’re such a poor team, in almost every facet of the pitch. Not fit for purpose.

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Keown reckons they've lost 10 of their last 11 away games in Europe. I wonder who they managed to win against? Who could it possibly be?

Think we can write the season (and probably next) a massive re-build is needed as has been said start playing more or the kids get rid of the deadwood it's a shame we won't be able to keep Auba (after this he's going he's not stupid).

Only 4 points behind 5th so well within reach in theory but we dont win enough games plus still have Leicester spurs liverpool city wolves to play. Also dross sides like west ham Norwich Watford villa. We probably wont win half our remaining games. So might as well go for fa cup