He's right :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
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He's right :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Nah. Anyway, this argument is going round in more circles than the ones I have with MrsL :ilt:
Max Hastings manages to produce an article in which every sentence, bar two, is a childish lie. Fucking impressive if you ask me.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ded-fools.html
Comments are interesting too. It shows that while the average citizen still has a moderate capacity to figure when they are being bullshitted there is an increasing number lost beyond recovery. The real threat is if this latter group achieves majority.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Wsv6BM4AY8
"Are we morons?"
What's funny about v for vendetta is it is about Christians taking freedoms from others when in real life it's securalist media, pressure groups and politicians doing this to others. Hollywood has a sense of humour.
I was more trying to compare the differences in style and presentation between the (ahem) factual Fox News and the fictional Hollywood, of which there are none. We've finally got there, news is Hollywood and Hollywood is the news.Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_brighterside
And what freedoms have been taken from you?Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_brighterside
Historically speaking religion has always been there to curtail the freedoms of others and invigilate their lives. If there is a cabal between shadowy government and secular media (media should be secular shouldn't it?) than they are only following the blueprints left for them
They were meant to be the antidote though, not just to religion but also monarchy. The God given right to rule was supposed to be replaced by representation in the form of government, the media's role being a light to shine on that process to ensure it functioned as intended. Both have failed as spectacularly as it is possible to fail. The comfortable arrangement they operate which directly harms the people they are supposed to serve is certainly a conspiracy, but not of the type whispered in secret rooms. It has everything to do with self preservation, one scratches the back of the other and vice versa in order to maintain the status quo that affords both the influence and privilege that are now their primary reason for being.Quote:
If there is a cabal between shadowy government and secular media (media should be secular shouldn't it?) than they are only following the blueprints left for them.
You can listen to any honest journalist and you'll hear the same thing. You go along to get along and if you step outside the tight confines and actually start doing your job then you are out on your ear. And interesting story today, apparently the Home Office will be given access to the little black books the political whips use to keep their charges in line. Think about that for a moment and try to tally it with the alleged purpose of a representative democracy.
Which feeds into the third branch, the intelligence services. Increasingly these bastards operate independently within their own little kingdoms and they have their little black books too, only they aren't so little.
It's a mess, a system that uses a mask of service to the public so they can play a numbers game to transfer a little bit from each citizen which makes a big pile to share between the few. That's the purpose of government, the media and the other establishment entities. Inheritance still plays a big role. Daddy went to this school, daddy was associated with so and so.
Every 5 years the people get to decide how their masters shuffle the chairs, same arses different seats.
Underpinning it all is the notion that regular people are too dumb or too unreliable to govern themselves. It's not in the human nature. So we turn to these super human beings who apparently are immune to these debilitating conditions. The likes of Cameron and Blair and Piers Morgan. You have to laugh. The motley crew convincing the rest they are the only ones qualified to make decisions on our behalf. Because they love us and they want to serve. Sounds a bit religious.
If we as an intelligent species can't snap out of this then we deserve what we get. Religion, monarchy, government, makes no odds at all. They are all in the game for the same reason.
At least V for Vendetta was a decent film in terms of entertainment. That's what we get and that's all we get.
I'd say in this country it's not too bad right now, but it's coming.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
France passed this law:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-28106900
And while I'm not a big fan of full face veils (apart from on your mum, lolz), and I don't believe Islam commands the wearing of them, one could argue that this ban is targeting their religious freedoms.
This used to be a Christian country (whatever that means, I'm not sure a country should have a religion really, that should be a personal decision), right now it still is nominally but not in reality. Christians are tolerated in this country but I can see a day coming where it will become difficult for us to legally tell others what we believe.