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    Quote Originally Posted by Globalgunner View Post
    Youre just being you. Whats the point of impeaching him if it will have no effect?. He beat impeachment twice. Completed his term. Facts.
    They just passed a resolution saying Pence should invoke the 25th amendment. What became of that? Empty rhetoric
    He hasn’t beaten impeachment twice. He has beaten it once. The second impeachment is ongoing and as of now, no vote has been held. Congress are currently debating it.

    In terms of what it will do, it will have a massive effect. If impeached, he is banned from running for public office again so prevents him going again in 2024. Allows the Republicans to move on from Trump.

    But a more wider effect of impeachment if successful is that it shows a president cant get away with inciting insurrection.

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    Again Trump making history even by your own words. If you think even 2 of 10 Republicans that it will require to remove him will vote along with the Democrats then you really are an Optimist.

    So you are claiming he incited insurrection against the very government that he is head of?......a real head turner for legal jurisprudence there.
    The 25th amendment of the US constitution actually mandates that the people should rise up if they are unhappy with their government. Rise up, guns and all. How is Trump inciting people to do what the constitution states. Probably why the cops were letting them through.

    The prospect of Trump 2024 really scares you it seems. It wont be a problem if Drowsy Biden and his hooker VP actually do the right thing by the people
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    Quote Originally Posted by Globalgunner View Post
    Again Trump making history even by your own words. If you think even 2 of 10 Republicans that it will require to remove him will vote along with the Democrats then you really are an Optimist.

    So you are claiming he incited insurrection against the very government that he is head of?......a real head turner for legal jurisprudence there.
    The 25th amendment of the US constitution actually mandates that the people should rise up if they are unhappy with their government. Rise up, guns and all. How is Trump inciting people to do what the constitution states. Probably why the cops were letting them through.

    The prospect of Trump 2024 really scares you it seems. It wont be a problem if Drowsy Biden and his hooker VP actually do the right thing by the people
    What the actual fuck are you talking about?

    The 25th amendment does not mandate the people should rise up guns & all.

    You say how is trump inciting insurrection against his own government? Well it wasn’t against his own government. It was to stop congress/senate voting to confirm Biden as the next president and therefore keep Trump in office. They attacked the caption where the senate & congress were meeting and bear in mind, those two are separate from the government.

    Mitch McConnel came out yesterday to say that he thinks Trump committed impeachable offences. That’s not to say he or other republicans will vote to impeach (it will pass congress as democrats have the votes but the senate needs 2/3s to convict). If McConnell is turning on trump then as leader of the senate he may take enough republicans with him to convict. Unlikely i suspect but it will be a tighter vote then last year.


    I’m not a fan of trump and don’t want him to run or win again and i say that as a right leaning conservative voter.


    Now onto the bit in bold, what should Biden & Harris do that would be right by the people? I assume you mean take office & govern following the people voting them in but i suspect not

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    It's not my responsibility to educate you or change your opinion. Why dont you just go read the 25th amendment yourself.
    And mind your language. Violence is the refuge of the incompetent.-Asimov

    Apparently you dony even know the definition of insurrection then.edit I was referring to the 2nd amendment I believe it's the one that allows them to bear guns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Globalgunner View Post
    Whats the point of impeaching him if it will have no effect?.
    Ollie has explained what the effect would be.

    He beat impeachment twice. Completed his term. Facts.
    Not yet. But ok, let’s say he does. It’s like Theresa May surviving a vote of confidence in parliament.
    Of course she did, she had the numbers. The Conservatives aren’t stupid enough to vote to remove their own PM. Although one might pause to ponder the hypocrisy of those who voted for her to stay as PM while also making noises that she wasn’t fit to run the party...

    The situation is a bit different here, Biden is going to be President next week so voting not to impeach Trump isn’t going to keep them in power anyway. So maybe they’ll have the guts to impeach him. They probably won’t, but they should. The actions last week should not be without consequence.

    The 25th Amendment thing was always bit of a reach though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Globalgunner View Post
    It's not my responsibility to educate you or change your opinion. Why dont you just go read the 25th amendment yourself.
    And mind your language. Violence is the refuge of the incompetent.-Asimov

    Apparently you dony even know the definition of insurrection then.
    The 25th amendment is about transferring power in certain situations. The first obviously is if the president is incapacitated such as going into surgery where the president is unconscious so under the 25th, teh VP can become acting president.

    The other use is if the VP & majority of Cabinet think the president is no longer fit to serve, they can invoke it & replace them.


    So where under the 25th does it mandate people should rise up if they unhappy with their government guns & all?

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    But...there’s so much evidence...

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewals...h=3e2c858a496b

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ollie the Optimist View Post
    The 25th amendment is about transferring power in certain situations. The first obviously is if the president is incapacitated such as going into surgery where the president is unconscious so under the 25th, teh VP can become acting president.

    The other use is if the VP & majority of Cabinet think the president is no longer fit to serve, they can invoke it & replace them.


    So where under the 25th does it mandate people should rise up if they unhappy with their government guns & all?
    If you actually knew your US civics you would have sussed that I meant the 2nd amendment. Obvious typo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Globalgunner View Post
    If you actually knew your US civics you would have sussed that I meant the 2nd amendment. Obvious typo
    A typo is when you hit the wrong key or type something like than when you mean then.

    You made a mistake. And then when someone replied to what you actually wrote, you came across as a snot.
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    Annnnnnd.....he’s impeached.

    Again.
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