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    Quote Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico View Post
    Agreed on both counts that Arteta should have been happy with just an interview but by accounts we've strung him along and given the impression that he was going to be appointed (apparently he was planning on what backroom staff to bring along over the weekend) only to pull the rug from his feet at the last minute after Ivan potentially got cold feet.

    We've also pissed of Vieira as well with our approach to him which according to him was purely a gesture so much so that Ian Wright was blasting the club last night for "tokenism".

    It's not so much not appointing either of those two but the manner in which we contacted & dealt with them that seems completely amateur. We've done it a way that possibly rules out any future involvement here which if either turns out to be world class coaches in the future, we're going to feel very silly about. FFS Ivan.
    This isn't our fault. It's the media and their bullshit. We really have no idea how close we were to signing up Arteta or anyone for that matter. Emery has yet to be confirmed. Nobody has said anything. The candidates have stayed quiet and so has club. How is it that we get the 'amateur hour' tag when it's obvious the press have not got the slightest clue as to what's going on and has been feeding us bullshit for weeks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power n Glory View Post
    This isn't our fault. It's the media and their bullshit. We really have no idea how close we were to signing up Arteta or anyone for that matter. Emery has yet to be confirmed. Nobody has said anything. The candidates have stayed quiet and so has club. How is it that we get the 'amateur hour' tag when it's obvious the press have not got the slightest clue as to what's going on and has been feeding us bullshit for weeks?
    Could very well be and I think some of the ITK's have been full of shit and have exposed themselves as frauds.

    But there's usually never all this smoke without some kind of fire for any story .... i.e. Arteta was more than likely a very serious candidate at some point. We had Pep basically confirm last week that we had made an approach and that he wouldn't stand in his way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    To be fair he won the Europa League years in a row (which would be hard to do) and they beat Liverpool who seemed to be destined to win it in the final, convincingly as well, he also did everything but win the CL at PSG and this season Real the finalists beat them, they were pretty impressive up to that point.

    In addition you were happy with Arteta who not only has won nothing, he's never even managed in his life, this is big upgrade over him. Thought PSG really impressed when they played us as well and they topped the group with Bayern in it this season.

    IMO he's a very good manager and will do some good at the club, his style of play is also easy on the eye.
    Yep agreed. He is a very good manager, one season of not winning the league at PSG doesn't change that. Prior to his move to PSG his stock was very high.

    He built very good teams on limited budgets at both Valencia and Sevilla, he was the one that developed David Silva and Juan Mata at Valencia, he was also the one that developed David Villa to a world class level prior to his move from Valencia to Barca. His Valencia side finished 3rd on a couple of occasions and his Sevilla team whilst not finishing top 4 regularly won the Europa League, they beat some decent teams too.

    Emery builds structured attacking teams that play attractive football, he is more than qualified to do a job here at Arsenal and he will promote youth too.

    I think it's a decent appointment, after all if it doesn't work out then he will get the boot, we have no emotional obligation to keep him around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico View Post

    We've also pissed of Vieira as well with our approach to him which according to him was purely a gesture so much so that Ian Wright was blasting the club last night for "tokenism".
    Who cares? He is a minor in the management world and has no god given right to walk into Arsenal as the new manager. It's a big job, a job which requires an experienced manager who has operated in a European league and has experience of European competitions.

    Vieira shouldn't have even been a candidate....

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico View Post
    Agreed on both counts that Arteta should have been happy with just an interview but by accounts we've strung him along and given the impression that he was going to be appointed (apparently he was planning on what backroom staff to bring along over the weekend) only to pull the rug from his feet at the last minute after Ivan potentially got cold feet.

    We've also pissed of Vieira as well with our approach to him which according to him was purely a gesture so much so that Ian Wright was blasting the club last night for "tokenism".

    It's not so much not appointing either of those two but the manner in which we contacted & dealt with them that seems completely amateur. We've done it a way that possibly rules out any future involvement here which if either turns out to be world class coaches in the future, we're going to feel very silly about. FFS Ivan.
    Tbf I don't see what the problem is. If Chelsea had done it the media would praise them for being ruthless. The board finally show a ruthless streak and the media still hit out at us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cripps View Post
    Tbf I don't see what the problem is. If Chelsea had done it the media would praise them for being ruthless. The board finally show a ruthless streak and the media still hit out at us.
    No, we'd be saying what a classless club it is. The media makes everything worse though, always speculating to sell a paper or get an internet view. Just let clubs do their work in the background, you'll find out soon enough That won't sell papers though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    That won't even register with the know nothings and their audience. They'll just roll on to the next set of made up bullshit rumours as if nothing happened.
    Sadly true. Fun watching them lost for words for a microsecond, but they're already adapting with their "Arsenal's process was a shambles" spiel. And the public are buying it.

    It's all the internet's fault! Basic economics dictates that the more of an abundance there is of something, the less we value it: in this case the internet has given us instant access to near limitless information, and because of that I think a lot of people have stopped caring about the veracity of it. Pick any subject and there will be a million opinions and articles out there that argue every possible point - far more likely than not that what you're reading is bullshit, so we start to get cynical about it, and stop assigning any real value to any of it.

    Also, seeking out the truth (and maybe having to challenge and change our own preconceptions along the way) can be time-consuming and hard - far easier to simply seek out opinions that already match and validate our own (of which will be thousands just a click away), or tell us exactly what we were hoping to hear (especially in transfer madness season - it's the one time of the year that we can all believe that our teams might just be something special, before stinking reality kicks in again in August). The know-nothings are bunch of liars and parasites to be sure, but I'll say this for them - they understand their environment better than most, and they know how to take full advantage of it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goonermerree View Post
    No, we'd be saying what a classless club it is. The media makes everything worse though, always speculating to sell a paper or get an internet view. Just let clubs do their work in the background, you'll find out soon enough That won't sell papers though
    Tbf I don't mind us being ruthless.

    We've been too nice for years and it's got us nowhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cripps View Post
    Tbf I don't mind us being ruthless.

    We've been too nice for years and it's got us nowhere.
    We'd still call Chelsea or United classless, just because...

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    Anyway,there's not a thing about a new manager on .com

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