http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37944473
Some MPs 'ready to vote against triggering Brexit'
Who saw that coming???
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37944473
Some MPs 'ready to vote against triggering Brexit'
Who saw that coming???
Ok....in your own words.
You seem to have difficulty distinguishing white collar crime (aka standard business practices) from serious fucking shit that leaves hundreds of thousands of people dead. Whatever the reason people didn't bite on Clinton's rotten apple, the main thing is they didn't bite. That's important. Fewer Syrians, Iranians, Iraqis will die as a result and that's a good thing.BUTAgain, there's a huge difference between some guy sounding off to get elected and a woman that is directly responsible for slaughtering hundreds of thousands of human beings. There just is. And if Trump carries on where Obama/ Clinton left off then sure, he joins the ranks of the war criminals and serial killers than we've seen stream through our hallowed parliaments over the decades. But right now there's simply no comparison. Why it even has to be explained that it's a good thing people rejected that woman is tough to understand. Reasoning seems to be, well maybe Trump is Hitler, therefore let's stick with the Hilter we know. So maybe Trump won't be Hitler. At least it's possible for that to happen, whereas with Clinton it's not. She's already joined that club and it can't be un-joined.
Trump has said he wants to work WITH Russia to bomb the shit out of ISIS. Right now the US is funding ISIS and bombing Assad's forces, which is why Russia has to be in there at all. Russia wouldn't have any problems if the yanks were bombing ISIS but instead they trying to overthrow Assad. All as part of the agenda spelled out in 2001.And there we go again. I tell you what Trump actually said, in direct contradiction to what you implied, so that's done, shift goalposts and go again.
Assad, like any of the authoritarians in a region continuously destabilised by the world powers, is ruthless towards his opponents. But does he bomb his own people? Well yes he does now, following the US starting a civil war in his country and sending ISIS against him. That's what happens in a civil war. Did the Americans bomb and burn the shit out of civilians during their own civil war? Yes they did.
But was Assad a crazed tyrant happily bombing his people before the US intervened? Of course not and any fool can figure out what that bullshit is all about. First it was Saddam, then Gadaffi, now it is Assad and tomorrow it will be whoever we want it to be. Dictators don't bomb people to hold power because they wouldn't hold it for very long. Instead they arrest people, violate their human rights, lock them up as political prisoners, assassinate them. Just the same as the US does. In fact one Barak Obama is infamous for such behaviour.
However, now that the US has started this war and created ISIS, now that there's a chance to do something about it, yes, I think it would be a good idea to bomb the shit out of ISIS. And if we could avoid conflict with the Russians then that would be a great idea.I'm not being dishonest at all.Because if the yanks stop bombing Assad's forces and stop funding ISIS and start bombing ISIS then the civil war they started in Syria can be quickly concluded and order restored. Otherwise it will drag with the ever increasing possibility of direct confrontation with Russia. The Turks have been trying to provoke that for months, another surrogate for the US of course. If there's another way to put ISIS back in the bottle then tell me.
Sorry to hear that, when we were much younger we assumed these people in our lives would be around foreverOriginally Posted by Letters
Yeah, can't believe she didn't make the cut.
Auntie Hazel
That's the sad thing - it won't remain. It can't. As people point towards the unsustainably of the money flooding into the Premiership, that serves as a microcosm for capitalism as a whole. The whole system is creaking at the hinges and the standard of living continues to go down. What people are doing now is clamouring around for someone, anyone that they believe can provide something different to what they've experienced their whole lifetime. Young and old. Farage and Trump are desperate shouts from people whose fears are being exploited yes, but still have fears nonetheless, ignorant, racist, intelligent or stupid. When people realise that they've been duped yet again, the voting numbers will fall off the chart completely. And then it's a case of them or us. But it won't be pretty in the meantime.Like a great man once said:
Well of course. 48% of people voted to remain, most of London did.
Why would MPs in those constituencies vote to leave? If the referendum result was relatively close then so should the vote in parliament but I fully expect it to be passed.
This is good stuff. This bullshit about the 'will of the people' being accepted and moving away from 'politics' as normal being revealed for what it is, if that occurs. Brexit will still happen because the vast majority of MP's understand they have too much to lose if they willingly open the door to chaos. That will have to be imposed on them in the end.
Obviously most of the people protesting right now are morans. If half these imbeciles had actually worked harder before the election turning people out (Hillary will get less raw votes than Obama and especially suffered among millennials) then just maybe Trump wouldn't have won However, let's not pretend that these protests aren't unique and would have occurred had a non-fascist like Romney or Kasich had won. The reason why people are protesting is exactly because Trump has come into power on the back of demagoguery, jackassery and spreading seeds of hatred against certain minority groups.
What kind of example does it set to kids, heck in fact anyone, that you can behave like a complete douchebag, exploit your wealth & celebrity to abuse/grope woman, insult and demean large vulnerable sections of society etc etc ..... yet still rise to the most powerful position in the country? And like you saw with the increase in hate crimes after Brexit, you've seen a rise in hate crimes in America since as Trump has normalised that behaviour ...."If the president says it's fine to call Mexicans criminals and rapists, then why can't I do the same if not worse?"
It's all very well if your a white man who's in one of a few select groups that Trump didn't demean or blame for society's problems to go, "What are all these n***** and p*****" worried about? However if you are in one of those groups, you're going to be shitting yourself that Trump's going to keep blaming you when things go inevitably tits up and he can't fulfil even an eighth of his promises (e.g. bringing back Coal jobs ... wtf?) especially if you've already experienced more glares and abuse since Trump's ascension.
We (Arsenal fans) get riled up when we see a cunt like Mourinho win because we've been directly in the fire of his shitbaggery and seen him abuse someone we have respect for (Wenger); that's exactly what it's like for them in America except it's a million times worse and he has control over the entire military, FBI and every function of executive government.
/rant over
Phil Collins tickets on sale for Hyde Park, Letters.
Sorry I can't make it that day.
It's better to burn out, than to fade away.
You are being way too simplistic.
For instance had the left really been left in the US, Trump would have been up against Sanders.
In the U.K. the leader of the Labour Party while a left winger, simply had no credibility. And his replacement is worse precisely because Labour made the move to open up to the widest possible audience through the £3 vote.
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