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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    NQ is evading nothing.
    Apart from these 3 straight questions:

    What is the agenda?
    What is the basis for stating it is a fabrication?
    What facts are you disputing and what is your basis for doing so?

    The proposed story is some nutter who had a load of guns shot a load of people. Given how often that happens in America it doesn't seem that unlikely.
    Do you want to have a go at answering my questions now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Apart from these 3 straight questions:

    What is the agenda?
    What is the basis for stating it is a fabrication?
    What facts are you disputing and what is your basis for doing so?

    The proposed story is some nutter who had a load of guns shot a load of people. Given how often that happens in America it doesn't seem that unlikely.
    Do you want to have a go at answering my questions now?
    Agenda - can't be know. Not enough evidence. Best guess, fear, divide and conquer. Distract? Could be many, many things.
    Fabrication - already admitted by the authorities when their hero figure's timeline was altered.
    Facts - Not the same thing as announcements by authority figures. Freely available video and audio evidence of the whole incident as well as eyewitnesses already establish there were 2 gunmen involved, at least 2 but no fewer than 2. Acoustics and eyewitness testimony make it impossible there was only one.

    So the changed timeline and the disintegration of the routine lone nut cover already proves the story being pushed out is a fabrication. Why they are fabricating a story, who is behind it, what are the real train of events? Unknown due to insufficient evidence.

    And you call the shooter a nutter with loads of guns, but he's only a nutter on the basis the fabricated story about him is true, which it can't be, and it's only true if he really managed to smuggle an arsenal into a mob hotel completely unseen, not even a video still. So that didn't happen. 600 casualties among a scattering crowd from 11 bursts and supposedly 2,000 rounds, over 440 yards? The terminator couldn't achieve that success rate.

    But we've reached the stage where it really doesn't matter. Half the people now believe authority unconditionally. 911 was the acid test. JFK the primer and many, many steps between. In the 70's we knew the CIA and FBI killed Kennedy using their mates in the mob, we knew there was a conspiracy because even the authorities quietly concluded the same. But if you don't publicise the facts then the facts don't exist and the myth prevails.

    A few days ago further, the rubber stamp was delivered. Not from a tin foil hat on the Internet, but from the pen of the ex-Surgeon General. Reinforcing what was known in the 70s and putting the matter beyond reasonable dispute. But still, the mainstream will tell you Oswald shot Kennedy. Tucker Carlson did it last night, with a straight face, and he's supposed to be the fearless voice of the right.

    It takes a long time for many people to figure these things out, and by then it's usually too late to matter. So we have another 50 years to go before everyone accepts the physical evidence from 911. And, who knows, 70, 80, 90 years until the truth about Vegas is common knowledge, if we last that long. Maybe less because Vegas is a footnote by comparison. And maybe less because more people are dismissing authoritarian bullshit as it gets more ridiculous and the trend is towards a critical mass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Agenda - can't be know. Not enough evidence. Best guess, fear, divide and conquer. Distract? Could be many, many things.
    Fabrication - already admitted by the authorities when their hero figure's timeline was altered.
    Facts - Not the same thing as announcements by authority figures. Freely available video and audio evidence of the whole incident as well as eyewitnesses already establish there were 2 gunmen involved, at least 2 but no fewer than 2. Acoustics and eyewitness testimony make it impossible there was only one.

    So the changed timeline and the disintegration of the routine lone nut cover already proves the story being pushed out is a fabrication. Why they are fabricating a story, who is behind it, what are the real train of events? Unknown due to insufficient evidence.

    And you call the shooter a nutter with loads of guns, but he's only a nutter on the basis the fabricated story about him is true, which it can't be, and it's only true if he really managed to smuggle an arsenal into a mob hotel completely unseen, not even a video still. So that didn't happen. 600 casualties among a scattering crowd from 11 bursts and supposedly 2,000 rounds, over 440 yards? The terminator couldn't achieve that success rate.

    But we've reached the stage where it really doesn't matter. Half the people now believe authority unconditionally. 911 was the acid test. JFK the primer and many, many steps between. In the 70's we knew the CIA and FBI killed Kennedy using their mates in the mob, we knew there was a conspiracy because even the authorities quietly concluded the same. But if you don't publicise the facts then the facts don't exist and the myth prevails.

    A few days ago further, the rubber stamp was delivered. Not from a tin foil hat on the Internet, but from the pen of the ex-Surgeon General. Reinforcing what was known in the 70s and putting the matter beyond reasonable dispute. But still, the mainstream will tell you Oswald shot Kennedy. Tucker Carlson did it last night, with a straight face, and he's supposed to be the fearless voice of the right.

    It takes a long time for many people to figure these things out, and by then it's usually too late to matter. So we have another 50 years to go before everyone accepts the physical evidence from 911. And, who knows, 70, 80, 90 years until the truth about Vegas is common knowledge, if we last that long. Maybe less because Vegas is a footnote by comparison. And maybe less because more people are dismissing authoritarian bullshit as it gets more ridiculous and the trend is towards a critical mass.
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    NOTE: The location of this post has been moved and the thread title (which was previously Wenger is Leaving) has been manipulated by a notorious pro-Wenger moderator. What was previously a message that contained no profanity and made a comment on a real life event has now been manipulated by a deliberately provocative title. An old and crude propaganda and censorship technique.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GP View Post
    I think it's for the best if whoever made that is murdered.
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    I bought the 8.

    Never bother with first iteration's, I don't think the X will really take off for another year or 2 when the tech specifically for it is better and more varied.

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    I change my phone about every 5 years and it still serves me well at the end of each cycle .Got better things to do with my hard earned than get conned into buying the latest fad. Like Cadbury chocs.and London Dairy ice cream. Only got rid of my Galaxy S4 this summer
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