Random Arsenal Shit (When it's not worth starting a thread)

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Ramsey might have had a few games where he looked slightly above his usual standard, but I wouldn't exactly say he's "improved massively".

[Power n Glory]

If you have 6 players in your midfield and attack whose close-control is brilliant and they're clever, then you're sorted. It's as simple as that. The poncy little tricks and dribbles never used to come out 10 years ago, because there was trust. You knew as a player that you can slam the ball forward to your teammate whose in an awkward position, you don't hesitate or slow things down and look for another option because you know that you have a margin of error. Not every pass 10 years ago was pin-point accurate through the eye of a needle. The control was. Even if it came at pace, an awkward height, closely guarded by opponents, you knew your teammate would find a way out and play a sensible (and that's all it was) ball. The speed of passing is so underrated but I guess it's only appreciated in quality teams like Barcelona. What's the point of slamming the ball at someone who's never going to be able to control it.

When you have no faith in your teammates to control a quick pass, that's when you start looking for another option for a player who's less guarded. And if you don't have players who are clever enough to always move around, find some space and be available, then you need more time and you need more touches to find someone. And then everything's slower.

That’s a really good point and we don’t have the players and it goes beyond just a few individual players. You can see with Barca that they’re not afraid to ping the ball off to any player even if in a tight space knowing that the player will be able to retain possession. But how is that Swansea are able to play good possession football with the squad they have? We seem so unorganised and chaotic compared to how they usually play. The system just seems broken.

[Marc Overmars]

am seeing ramsey's name pop up as a deadwood player etc, but am i the only one who thinks that since january he has improved massively and has been one of better performers recently?

Improved to the extent where he's cut out the stupid flicks and hospital passes, but he still doesn't really have much of an impact on a match. The guy is not good enough by any stretch of the imagination IMO, unless a reasonably good workhorse is what you're after.

Just a buy a quality midfielder and stop persisting with players who rarely do anything of note for us, despite ample opportunity.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Improved to the extent where he's cut out the stupid flicks and hospital passes, but he still doesn't really have much of an impact on a match. The guy is not good enough by any stretch of the imagination IMO, unless a reasonably good workhorse is what you're after.

Just a buy a quality midfielder and stop persisting with players who rarely do anything of note for us, despite ample opportunity.

isnt that what we need though? a good workhorse? ive noticed when we play him centrally, he works very hard, breaks up play and lets other get on with the creative stuff. been impressed by him, yes quality is needed, but he is ok imo, doing well.

[Özim]

All of our best players were fucking beasts. And then WUMget decided it would be good to have all midgets.

Midgetist.

[Syn]

That’s a really good point and we don’t have the players and it goes beyond just a few individual players. You can see with Barca that they’re not afraid to ping the ball off to any player even if in a tight space knowing that the player will be able to retain possession. But how is that Swansea are able to play good possession football with the squad they have? We seem so unorganised and chaotic compared to how they usually play. The system just seems broken.

Swansea get more pretty moves going and there's more of a commitment flooding forward on their end, but they're 9th in the table and it's not like they're consistently effective with it. You're right that they're probably still punching above their weight and that's because of sensible buys (a key one - Michu at £2.5m) and good discipline from the manager.

Wenger could us to play better. But we could be instructed to be more adventurous - yet more moves would break down but we'd score more pretty goals and maybe end up 9th where Swansea are. But to stay effective as well as get prettier we need the right players. Giroud is looking like the wrong buy with his first-touch being bad (as shown for Monreal's goal). Because our wide players are more direct (both Walcott and Podolski prefer being strikers), you need a striker like Berbatov or someone who's clever and can bring Walcott and Podolski into play.

Maybe the 'system' is wrong but I don't think Wenger - who has made his name through building a quick pass-and-move - doesn't know the value of moving the ball quicker. I think if we had a Van Persie or instead had some proper technical wizards out wide then it would make a big difference in that moves wouldn't break down and players would feel more confident. It begs the question why Rosicky hasn't played more but maybe he's not just up to playing 2 games a week any more.

[Marc Overmars]

isnt that what we need though? a good workhorse? ive noticed when we play him centrally, he works very hard, breaks up play and lets other get on with the creative stuff. been impressed by him, yes quality is needed, but he is ok imo, doing well.

2-3 years ago we needed a workhorse because we had more talent than hard workers.

Now we have more hard workers than talent.

[Kano]

It begs the question why Rosicky hasn't played more but maybe he's not just up to playing 2 games a week any more.

One game a week would be a start.

Play him sporadically as we are right now, then we'll get turd performances like Bayern.

[Power n Glory]

Swansea get more pretty moves going and there's more of a commitment flooding forward on their end, but they're 9th in the table and it's not like they're consistently effective with it. You're right that they're probably still punching above their weight and that's because of sensible buys (a key one - Michu at £2.5m) and good discipline from the manager.

Wenger could us to play better. But we could be instructed to be more adventurous - yet more moves would break down but we'd score more pretty goals and maybe end up 9th where Swansea are. But to stay effective as well as get prettier we need the right players. Giroud is looking like the wrong buy with his first-touch being bad (as shown for Monreal's goal). Because our wide players are more direct (both Walcott and Podolski prefer being strikers), you need a striker like Berbatov or someone who's clever and can bring Walcott and Podolski into play.

Maybe the 'system' is wrong but I don't think Wenger - who has made his name through building a quick pass-and-move - doesn't know the value of moving the ball quicker. I think if we had a Van Persie or instead had some proper technical wizards out wide then it would make a big difference in that moves wouldn't break down and players would feel more confident. It begs the question why Rosicky hasn't played more but maybe he's not just up to playing 2 games a week any more.

I’m really baffled by Giroud’s purchase as well. His touch is so bad and he needs the goal set up on a plate for him because he’s too slow to get away from his marker and his touch isn’t good enough to get him that inch of space needed to pop a shot off. I totally agree with you about needing a striker that can bring our wide players into play and I tempted to say Chamakh would be better at that job even though he’s such a coward in front of goal. But I agree with the points you’ve made and I can’t see why Wenger has made certain purchases or what sort of team he’s trying to build. To go from Gervinho on the left to Podolski is very odd. Pod is clinical but not creative or a trouble maker on the flanks. We needed an upgrade on Gervinho, a talented dribbler with some end product. On paper, the midfield should be doing so much better to dictate the pace but it’s not working at all.

[Globalgunner]

isnt that what we need though? a good workhorse? ive noticed when we play him centrally, he works very hard, breaks up play and lets other get on with the creative stuff. been impressed by him, yes quality is needed, but he is ok imo, doing well.

Ramsey is todays equivalent of Romford Pele: Ray Parlour. Except Parlour as limited as he was technically, was a really hard worker and was on occasion capable of great things. Ramsey is not. Parlour was surrounded by an ocean of talent and a team full of great personalities. Ramsey looks around and all he sees is Walcott and sometimes Gervinho.