At least Ronaldinho had a good few years at his peak and achieved everything in a short space of time, so I can understand the subsequent party lifestyle tbf.
At least Ronaldinho had a good few years at his peak and achieved everything in a short space of time, so I can understand the subsequent party lifestyle tbf.
Ronaldinho won everything there was to win and just took his foot off the gas. That's more understandable. I'm pretty sure he's still better than a chunk of midfield players out there now and could do a job. Just not a world class job like before where he was on another planet. Torres is a useless striker at the moment and terrible on all levels. You can't work with a player when he's so off form.
Good call.Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Torres has won everything aswell :s
Tbf Torres has his name tattooed on his arm in Tengwar, so above all else, he is a ****.
He didn't win anything for Liverpool and that's when he was at his best. He was good for Spain in Euro 2008 but that was it. The Chelsea European wins won't be remembered that fondly by him because he knows he wasn't playing well and was on the bench a lot that season.
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Torres had a decent goals record last season, albeit most came in Cup competitions and were largely unimportant. He did contribute to the Europa League run as well.
He's not become an absolute shell of a footballer like Arshavin though. He's not a striker anymore, he's completely lost his pace and sharpness in key areas. But, he actually links up pretty well and as a slightly less violent version of Kevin Davies, he's not doing too badly. The price tag and the general 'let's laugh at megamoney megaflop Torres' mindset (which I am fully behind) have made it so that everything he does will be painted negatively. But in actual footballing terms, to say he's fallen to the level of Arshavin is simply wrong. Arshavin was beyond a liability. Truly shocking. Unless he was playing in a knees-up with Reading.
Last edited by Master Splinter; 06-06-2013 at 08:55 PM.
I disagree with that. Arshavin's form is nowhere near as bad as Torres. Arshavin is lacking match fitness but give him a run in the team and he'd still get goals and assist. It's more of a fitness and match practice problem.Torres bottles chances and misses sitters and he hasn't got that sort of excuse because he gets regular games.
Arshavin was struggling to make two-yard passes and had become more disastrous than Eboooooe. This was long before he was frozen out and was nothing to do with his starting position. He had that one good half for Russia at the Euros last year, then did nothing for the next few games. That's an encapsulation of his career. Zenit fans observed this on his move to Arsenal. He was dropped from his national team too for not giving a fuck and hasn't played since. Torres has not dropped to those levels at all. At the very least, he puts in a decent shift.
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