And the Arabs and Asians and Chinese, what of all their wars and expansion? Is there a single civilisation that ever rose without bloodshed? Why single out the most recent examples and ignore the rest? Civilisations rise and fall. The west is so debauched and bloated and its younger generation so hopelessly out of touch with reality and so devoid of survival skills it could be we are looking at our own demise and the rise of the next great empire. It'll be a global empire if the worst of humanity prevails, and then we can go out and ruin other planets, if the Chinese rockets don't fall to pieces mid-flight. Even the peace loving, nature loving, wise and gentle Red Indians were vicious rapists and looters in reality. Everyone has a record.