Wenger's record in Europe is very average, in all his time he's failed to have any success. We can put that down to being tactically poor and expecting his team to win by playing their football, does he seriously think you can just go out and play your game and beat everyone without ever having to adapt to the opposition?
I think you make your own luck to some extent, we'd never do what Chelsea did, simple reason is we don't have the belief and that put everything on the line attitude about us, Chelsea were outplayed but you just always felt they could come back and score. Cole was absoultely immense incidentally, 5 million and Gallas really was daylight robbery in the end.
So yes they were "lucky" but the "lucky teams, just like Graham's teams of the past are lucky for a reason, they are tactically astute, organised, play for each other and give 100% for the cause...these are the teams that get lucky.
They got the rub of the green for sure, but you still have to take advantage of that and in the end they did, just like Man U in 99 and Porto when Mourinho managed them.
Last edited by Özim; 20-05-2012 at 12:18 PM.
I agree. Good post ( I can find the icon anymore!). Chelsea may be boring as shit but we would not have defended like that against Barca and Bayern and come through. Someone would have fucked up and we would have conceded in the last minute.Wenger has been very poor in Europe (you are generous in saying that he has been very average). We have easily been the poorest of the main English sides ( ie disregarding the Spuds, Everton and Man City who only appeared once) who have appeared in the CL over the years - Man utd, Chelsea and Liverpool have all won it and appeared in more than one final.
Thought it was a entertaining final to be honest, Bayern played well enough but there was quite a lot of drama at all.
Just because you're a sore loser and didn't like the outcome doesn't make it a bad final. Chelsea won it get over it, I'm not thrilled about it but that's life, my interest in football has got nothing to do with what other teams do and do not win.
You don't know why thoughts so please don't tell me my feelings etc. I not too upset they won it i was happy for a few of their players. But i won't say they deserve to win it when they did not.
Or won't suck their dick when people say they are the best team in the world. Not jealous at all.
The Europa league final was much better thats tells you how good it was.
I saw your comments yesterday, totally ridiculous is all I can say, talk about someone going over the top, that's enough for me to conclude you hated watching them winning rather than us. Most people do but they don't go off on a rant like you did.
Matter of opinion, I thought the CL final was enthralling, certainly was a lot of tension, Europa league was also very one-sided but there was no tension as Athletico wrapped it up before half time.
Is that right, so you weren't pretty much swearing in every other post, making comments about how the game is ruined and how it's all about money etc?
I'm not bullying anyone, but you're one of the people who becomes totally irrational in certain situations, there's a few others too, thing is those people didn't keep throwing insults around afterwards, something you chose to do.
Can we please cut out the personal insults.