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    Choosing a candidate in UK Elections seems to be a bit like picking Arsenal midfielders, it's often about the least bad option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Choosing a candidate in UK Elections seems to be a bit like picking Arsenal midfielders, it's often about the least bad option.

    Since the 2017 election, i agree with that. Ive voted more to stop someone else winning then because i actually wanted the party i voted for to win.

    I didnt think May was a great candidate and disagreed with a few of her policies but at least she (in my opinion) was acting in what she thought was best for the country. The same cannot be said about Johnson at all.

    But then again, the rest of the leaders of the other parties are a waste of space as well. Surely one day soon, we will get some candidates for PM that actually seem decent & competent

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ollie the Optimist View Post
    Surely one day soon, we will get some candidates for PM that actually seem decent & competent

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post


    He is called Ollie the Optimist, to be fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post


    He is called Ollie the Optimist, to be fair.
    There are decent MPs out there tbf

    I’d like to see Tom Tugendhat take over the Tory party, think he is a decent & competent MP and would make a fine leader.

    Must confess i know less on the labour side but Dan Jarvis always impresses.

    Still think Rory Stewart would have made a great PM if he had got through the leadership contest in 2019. I’d have voted for him but instead spoilt my ballot as Hunt & Johnson can piss off

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ollie the Optimist View Post
    There are decent MPs out there tbf

    I’d like to see Tom Tugendhat take over the Tory party, think he is a decent & competent MP and would make a fine leader.

    Must confess i know less on the labour side but Dan Jarvis always impresses.

    Still think Rory Stewart would have made a great PM if he had got through the leadership contest in 2019. I’d have voted for him but instead spoilt my ballot as Hunt & Johnson can piss off
    Rory Stewart wrote a great book about travelling across Afghanistan - 'The Places in Between' - thoroughly recommended.

    not sure about him as PM though - the trouble with any Tory PM is they end up giving in to the lunatics in the party, of which there are way too many.

    if Clegg hadn't sold out the Lib Dems we'd have a genuine third party to keep the Tories and socialists under control - i actually think if we could have a decent system of PR then we'd have genuine coalition governments (the LD-Tory one was basically the Tories with the LDs as their scapegoats) where no-one could do anything too extreme - i actually think that's the best way to do things

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    Rory Stewart wrote a great book about travelling across Afghanistan - 'The Places in Between' - thoroughly recommended.

    not sure about him as PM though - the trouble with any Tory PM is they end up giving in to the lunatics in the party, of which there are way too many.

    if Clegg hadn't sold out the Lib Dems we'd have a genuine third party to keep the Tories and socialists under control - i actually think if we could have a decent system of PR then we'd have genuine coalition governments (the LD-Tory one was basically the Tories with the LDs as their scapegoats) where no-one could do anything too extreme - i actually think that's the best way to do things
    He was certainly an interesting politician with a very different background in terms of what he had done before becoming an MP.

    I accept your point about the tory leader and dealing with the lunatics but same applies to labour at the moment with dealing with lunatics in that party. Although, while the ERG lot would have been livid if Mays deal had passed, Stewart’s policy was to get that deal through and if he won the leadership contest on that policy, it would have meant over half the party members supporting it so difficult for them to oppose. Although i suspect after about 2 years, they’d have tried to make life difficult.

    With PR, I’m not convinced by it. Ive seen people saying that the parties need to work together to oust the tories but ignore the fact that those parties have key differences. Take Labour & SNP, one wants an independent Scotland & the others doesnt. Bit of a key difference. If the parties were similar, they would merge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ollie the Optimist View Post
    He was certainly an interesting politician with a very different background in terms of what he had done before becoming an MP.

    I accept your point about the tory leader and dealing with the lunatics but same applies to labour at the moment with dealing with lunatics in that party. Although, while the ERG lot would have been livid if Mays deal had passed, Stewart’s policy was to get that deal through and if he won the leadership contest on that policy, it would have meant over half the party members supporting it so difficult for them to oppose. Although i suspect after about 2 years, they’d have tried to make life difficult.

    With PR, I’m not convinced by it. Ive seen people saying that the parties need to work together to oust the tories but ignore the fact that those parties have key differences. Take Labour & SNP, one wants an independent Scotland & the others doesnt. Bit of a key difference. If the parties were similar, they would merge.
    i don't agree on your point on PR, the fact is that most people vote for centre or centre-left partioes yet the right invariably wins because there's basically only the Tories to vote for other than a few nutter parties - we're then stuck in a right-wing elective dictatorship while they 5 years' worth of damage, some of it irrepairable

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