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[Niall_Quinn]

Hmmm if I didn’t know better I’d say human beings are naturally fallible and corruptible

But no we have all just been led astray by a clandestine elite rather than just the blind leading the blind since time immemorial.

The world is a shit hole because as you do in fairness point out people have a large amount of blindness and hypocrisy in respect of right and wrong.

By I’m not the one treating those who revel in said hypocrisy and vices and treat them as virtues as the gateway to a more equitable world.

You are always looking to jump to the endgame with seemingly little regard for the journey. Pedophile rings smashed, the left and the right both exposed to public view, the media destroyed. There is no need whatsoever to idolise anyone or become part of their cult to appreciate these deeply humanitarian developments. That's the problem, everyone needs to be on a team. Why? Right now Trump is just as you say. A gateway. So what? Would you rather everything stayed the same?

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Same question goes to you. Pick an example of any world leader anywhere and compare and contrast with Trump. Show me the distinction, not in press coverage, but in actions. I'm guessing you aren't a fan of Duterte because he's 'fessed up? Is that what makes him different in your eyes?

So other world leaders have killed people just for looking at them the wrong way. Bit of a difference between that and running through a farmers field.

Other world leaders outside of say the gulf states or IS seek to lower the age of criminal responsibility to nine?, hire mercenaries to murder people in the street often killing bystanders and children in the process. Threaten to murder people who uphold the legal due process?.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

You are always looking to jump to the endgame with seemingly little regard for the journey. Pedophile rings smashed, the left and the right both exposed to public view, the media destroyed. There is no need whatsoever to idolise anyone or become part of their cult to appreciate these deeply humanitarian developments. That's the problem, everyone needs to be on a team. Why? Right now Trump is just as you say. A gateway. So what? Would you rather everything stayed the same?

I marvel at you picking extremely obscure examples and push the envelope to suggest that anything is changing.

[Niall_Quinn]

Hmmm if I didn’t know better I’d say human beings are naturally fallible and corruptible

But no we have all just been led astray by a clandestine elite rather than just the blind leading the blind since time immemorial.

The world is a shit hole because as you do in fairness point out people have a large amount of blindness and hypocrisy in respect of right and wrong.

By I’m not the one treating those who revel in said hypocrisy and vices and treat them as virtues as the gateway to a more equitable world.

The blind have never led the blind. There's no evidence of that anywhere in history. Those with closely guarded knowledge, from the secret of fire through to our modern and bloated security services, have led the blind and worked hard to keep their followers blind. Survival of the weakest being mistaken for progression. They even call themselves progressives as they cling onto their advantage by whatever means necessary. Deceit, destruction, death, all done in the name of civilisation? What's ever changed? Today we conceal the rougher edges through the despicable art of socialism/ communism which enshrines the lie that some men are created just a little but more equal and are therefore destined (or even ordained) to lead us in our maintenance of the same old shit. If there's a flaw in humanity it's not inherent evil, it's gullibility. And fear.

[Letters]

Anyway, I think my main point was and remains we have two world leaders with nuclear weapons who are quite close to calling each other "poo poo pants" over the internet.
I can't tell if that's hilarious or terrifying so I'll go with the former.

[Niall_Quinn]

So other world leaders have killed people just for looking at them the wrong way. Bit of a difference between that and running through a farmers field.

Other world leaders outside of say the gulf states or IS seek to lower the age of criminal responsibility to nine?, hire mercenaries to murder people in the street often killing bystanders and children in the process. Threaten to murder people who uphold the legal due process?.

So you rank barbarity then? If a leader kills with his own hands he's a monster. If he orders somebody else to do it he's a statesman?

[Niall_Quinn]

I marvel at you picking extremely obscure examples and push the envelope to suggest that anything is changing.

Not to the extent I marvel at your classification of those foundations of the establishment being obscure. You want to dismiss organised evil as a basic human flaw. Why then the need for such secrecy? Shouldn't we all revel in the agenda?

[Niall_Quinn]

Anyway, I think my main point was and remains we have two world leaders with nuclear weapons who are quite close to calling each other "poo poo pants" over the internet.
I can't tell if that's hilarious or terrifying so I'll go with the former.

Yes, we get that. That's why I suggested the fish story. I think you might be entertained by that one too. And there's always the Simpsons if Trump takes a nap.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Not to the extent I marvel at your classification of those foundations of the establishment being obscure. You want to dismiss organised evil as a basic human flaw. Why then the need for such secrecy? Shouldn't we all revel in the agenda?

Inate rather than obscure its why societies thousands of years ago who wouldn’t have even known of each others existence have formed in similar ways.

From the justification means using religion and hereditary right people have sort dominion over each other, it was a kind of social Darwinism where the strong ruled over the weak, we see it in animals just as we see it in ourselves.

There has been no secret of it, until recently where open societies have forced people into more clandestine roles and the strength and extent of their influence can largely only be guessed at. Usually by people who like to believe that anything they don’t like is evidence of a deep state.

Look at free market capitalism, the people who feel left behind still believe in the system they just fill they’ve missed out on the chance to be exploiters.

It’s interesting that someone who accepts totally moral relativity. Seems to believe in this centuries old convenant of control and instilling mass delusion over otherwise decent but frightened people.

[Letters]

Yes, we get that. That's why I suggested the fish story. I think you might be entertained by that one too.

Nah. Maybe if he'd fallen in the water and emerged with a fish attached to one of his fingers that would have been funnier.