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[Power n Glory]

What are you on about? This is a simple concept. Clinton has committed crimes against humanity. Trump hasn't. He might, most American presidents do. But he hasn't yet whereas Clinton has. So don't vote for the one who has. Don't vote for anyone preferably, but definitely don't vote for the bitch who kills people. What is it with politics that makes people forget these human fundamentals?

Have a word with yourself.

[Niall_Quinn]

Have a word with yourself.

You're just creating throwaway comments now. Can't tell if that means you've grasped the rather obvious point or not.

[selassie]

Again, there's a huge difference between some guy sounding off to get elected and a woman that is directly responsible for slaughtering hundreds of thousands of human beings. There just is. And if Trump carries on where Obama/ Clinton left off then sure, he joins the ranks of the war criminals and serial killers than we've seen stream through our hallowed parliaments over the decades. But right now there's simply no comparison. Why it even has to be explained that it's a good thing people rejected that woman is tough to understand. Reasoning seems to be, well maybe Trump is Hitler, therefore let's stick with the Hilter we know. So maybe Trump won't be Hitler. At least it's possible for that to happen, whereas with Clinton it's not. She's already joined that club and it can't be un-joined.

If? He has to...at least for now he does.

Trump is a lunatic, he's not even one of them, he's a silver spooned maniac.

[selassie]

Simple enough to understand.

Better the devil you know or don't know...yep really easy to understand.

[Letters]

Probably the least of our worries but while we're here

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-37900400
http://www.vox.com/2016/11/9/1357131...saster-climate

[selassie]

This is the thing Selass, no one cared about the policies and why should they? People kid themselves every election into thinking these things matter, when hardly any - if any - are implemented. And then a new one comes along with new promise...round and round we go. He didn't hide the fact he was making it all up as he went along and yet people still bought into it. So when people begin to see through him, as is always the case, the they'll have a real choice to make. Do they go back to the tired and trusted corrupt politicians that have fucked up the world to this point, go even further right wing or say enough is enough?

Well they just voted for change, for anything that is different to what is being delivered now.

I feel for the good and sensible people of that country, Trump will run amok being in charge of that country.

[Niall_Quinn]

If? He has to...at least for now he does.

Trump is a lunatic, he's not even one of them, he's a silver spooned maniac.

He's just been elected president so I think it's safe to assume he's one of them. When was the last time one of us got that job?

[GP]

Abortions for some, tiny American flags for others!

[Kano]

Well they just voted for change, for anything that is different to what is being delivered now.

I feel for the good and sensible people of that country, Trump will run amok being in charge of that country.

He can't do shit because he's a figurehead. The people behind and above him run the show. He can't cut ties with the Saudi's because they need the oil. He can't stop the arms trade because war makes too much money for America. He can't fuck with the banks because they hold and control the financial structure of the world so integral to keeping everything just about ticking over.

This wasn't a vote for Trump. It was a vote for themselves. Worn down by decades of lies and broken promises. They are desperate for anything different. Of course, in a few years they'll realise that they've been tricked again but hopefully real change comes once people fully give up on the jokers who fuck them over every half a decade. Austerity, broken families, societal breakdown and increasing poverty wasn't going to lead to dead ends, something had to give in the end. As we saw here with Brexit, Le Pen to come in France, how Austria almost experienced. Voting numbers have been declining for decades and people are close to rock bottom, not yet, but almost. It couldn't continue forever and there could be madness to follow but out of destruction comes something new. Who knows what that is right now but it can't remain like this forever.

[Power n Glory]

You're just creating throwaway comments now. Can't tell if that means you've grasped the rather obvious point or not.

I think you’ve lost the plot. You’re reaching for every straw and I can’t understand why you’d form an argument around morality. The point I’m making and you clearly keep missing is the fact that even as a successful businessman and in the tame world of real estate, Trump has made some unethical calls and abused his power. All for his own benefit and greed. So the little he’s been trusted with, he’s abused. So what more and how far will it go as President?

Most Presidents and those in power always have to make tough calls when it comes to military action. We all know that. But the people voting for Trump, those historical Republican states, have a history of being in favour of military action and want to see a tough President in charge and that’s something Clinton has had to battle against. That perception that a woman in the war room would be a pushover. You’re forming the wrong argument. I totally understand where Kano is coming from and agree that after charade of Trump is over and he proves himself to be the typical politician and fucks over his voters, where will they go next?

But I can’t keep going back on forth on this one. It’s a waste of time.