If we don't finish 4th, do you want Wenger to leave at the end of the season?

[Marc Overmars]

He should go because nothing changes, ever.

We have our ups, we have our downs, in general there is absolutley no consistency with results at all. It's the same every season, the only difference now is that we've been surpassed by fucking Spurs. We've stood still for years and been fortunate enough that no one has been good enough to crack the top 4, now we're paying the price for the stagnating while others move forwards.

We could be 7th next week if results go against us and looking at the fixtures, we may well be.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

WHilst this board are there it makes no diffrence who the manager is unless it pepe or Jose and were not getting any of those top ones, with get some other yes man if he goes in the summer.

Fact is, at any other club the bottom line wouldn't be tolerated - taken a team from title winning in brilliant fashion to tame finish outside the top four in England. If a manager took a club from safe midtable to relegation or the relegation zone, they'd be sacked, regardless of whatever transfer funds they have to offer. Wenger has been given eight years to achieve the relative of it, for us. Yeah the board might be as arsey and tight fisted as they are now but the boards don't often get sacked, managers do, I am afraid.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Fact is, at any other club the bottom line wouldn't be tolerated - taken a team from title winning in brilliant fashion to tame finish outside the top four in England. If a manager took a club from safe midtable to relegation or the relegation zone, they'd be sacked, regardless of whatever transfer funds they have to offer. Wenger has been given eight years to achieve the relative of it, for us. Yeah the board might be as arsey and tight fisted as they are now but the boards don't often get sacked, managers do, I am afraid.

Never said he should not be sacked, i said nout would change whilst the board are still here.

[Niall_Quinn]

Seriously though, a lot as happened at Arsenal over the last couple of years. Just none of it on the pitch. Huge changes. Some Yank in, the board pissed off with all the money, dodgy deals to grease the pay day, bitch fights between the pigs to see who got what. How can anyone ignore all this when wondering what the fuck is going on with this club? Wenger showed that eye-gouging stubbornness again today and he's done it so many times that maybe he should pay the price. But let's not forget about the cunts who have actively set out and managed to succeed in destroying this club. The greedy cunts have had their rewards, and then some. They didn't even leave a few scraps behind. Don't see why they get a free pass.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Never said he should not be sacked, i said nout would change whilst the board are still here.

I wasn't saying that. I am pointing out that you saying nothing would change isn't that relevant - the change of manager would happen at any other club, certainly any other top club. If nothing will change, then we can't possibly lose out.

[Marc Overmars]

Maybe it will take another beat down from United to get Wenger to spend. No doubt there will be a clamour for it if we lose.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Seriously though, a lot as happened at Arsenal over the last couple of years. Just none of it on the pitch. Huge changes. Some Yank in, the board pissed off with all the money, dodgy deals to grease the pay day, bitch fights between the pigs to see who got what. How can anyone ignore all this when wondering what the fuck is going on with this club? Wenger showed that eye-gouging stubbornness again today and he's done it so many times that maybe he should pay the price. But let's not forget about the cunts who have actively set out and managed to succeed in destroying this club. The greedy cunts have had their rewards, and then some. They didn't even leave a few scraps behind. Don't see why they get a free pass.

I guess the point is, that a change at board level isn't that likely to help us on the field. And Wenger is as much a 'part' of the board as the board itself, I think. A new manager wouldn't be afforded that luxury at the beginning and perhaps that would be a good thing.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

I wasn't saying that. I am pointing out that you saying nothing would change isn't that relevant - the change of manager would happen at any other club, certainly any other top club. If nothing will change, then we can't possibly lose out.

I think im confusing you, what i meant was with this board the same funny finacial nonsense may still happen, not that a new manager would be tactially enept like wenger.

[Xhaka Can’t]

I want him gone regardless of where we finish. We have fallen well behind Tottenham and nothing has been or will be done to arrest further decline.

We need a change of direction and that simply will not change until the manager goes.

The team is in a horrific state of disrepair and Wenger and the Board have bled the cupboard dry - or will have done once they achieve their last big pay day when they cash in on Van Persie.

[Özim]

Seven defeats in the league already this season and we're only halfway through January....shameful to be honest.