Cricket Thread

[Cripps_orig]

It doesn't matter if it's entertaining or not. The bottom line is - it's not a choice between scoring 80 off 70 balls and 80 off 210 balls. It's a choice between scoring 80 off 70 balls with probability x, and scoring 80 off 210 with probability y. You're too stupid to realise this.

Doesn't matter if its entertaining or not? Wtf?

And you call me stupid?

I'm a fan. It's all that matters. Making stupid emoticon faces cos you're too idiotic to get the comparison doesn't get you off.

Entertainment may not matter to the players, it does to fans. You're not a player no matter how deluded you are

[Dennis Bendtner]

Why don't you sort out a tour of England, ring up Afridi and ask him to open the batting for you. Let us know how you get on.

[Cripps_orig]

Highest grossing films of all time:

1 Avatar
2 Titanic
3 The Avengers

Best selling doesn't mean most skillful. We're not talking about what is more popular so don't change the subject. You criticising batsmen for playing slow is suggesting they're not doing their jobs properly. You're saying they could score the same runs in less balls. That's the issue I'm taking up with you. The 'entertaining' argument is a nice cop out but we're not discussing it right now because we have done many times before.

And they can score the same amount in less balls. There's no excuse. A number 11 did it. All this defensive shit does is add pressure.

The best form of defence is attack. You may have not have heard of this cops you aren't the brightest but it relates to this. If Cook gets out early tomorrow, this whole evening session has been a waste. Some would say it has been already.

If he does score runs and gets a 50 or a hundred, it will be to facing deliveries like he did today which again backs up my point. If he can do it tomorrow then why not do it today? It's all hypothetical ATM of course.

I noticed how both my questions were conveniently left unanswered as they have been many times. Didn't expect an answer. You don't have one that would justify your not scoring runs is better than scoring runs tactic.

[Syn]

Doesn't matter if its entertaining or not? Wtf?

And you call me stupid?

I'm a fan. It's all that matters. Making stupid emoticon faces cos you're too idiotic to get the comparison doesn't get you off.

Entertainment may not matter to the players, it does to fans. You're not a player no matter how deluded you are

Players are there to win. That's their job. They win by scoring runs or taking wickets and ultimately whether their team wins. Whether they entertain you doesn't matter in terms of how well they're doing their job. You can win ugly, you can win in style - as we know, it all counts the same. You're suggesting players are not doing their job well because they're not entertaining you. But if they're scoring runs - and Trott, Cook and many others you criticise average high (50 in Tests) and their team is winning, they are doing their job. What about this is so difficult to understand?

[Cripps_orig]

Why don't you sort out a tour of England, ring up Afridi and ask him to open the batting for you. Let us know how you get on.

Wtf are you on about?

More importantly who are you? It's not the first time you've tried to act all clever and made to look an idiot due to things you know f all about.

Keep out ofmit

[Cripps_orig]

Players are there to win. That's their job. They win by scoring runs or taking wickets and ultimately whether their team wins. Whether they entertain you doesn't matter in terms of how well they're doing their job. You can win ugly, you can win in style - as we know, it all counts the same. You're suggesting players are not doing their job well because they're not entertaining you. But if they're scoring runs - and Trott, Cook and many others you criticise average high (50 in Tests) and their team is winning, they are doing their job. What about this is so difficult to understand?

I'm looking at it from a fans pov. And Cook, Trott etc play the same way in ODIs and they are shit in that so it doesn't get them results. It didn't get them the win in New Zealand either and England since beating India to go top of the rankings a couple of years back have been poor in tests.

[Syn]

And they can score the same amount in less balls. There's no excuse. A number 11 did it. All this defensive shit does is add pressure.

That's the crux of your argument. And it's simply not true. On the odd occasion, playing overly aggressively will pay off. But generally batsmen are cautious because they need to be cautious. Your logic is not right either. Sport isn't transitive. Just because a no.11 scores 100 off 90 doesn't mean a no.3 should. But over time, the no.3 should definitely average more than the no.11.

[Dennis Bendtner]

Don't you understand the difference between batting at 1,2,3 and 11?

No one is denying there's more than one way to skin a cat. But for some reason you're placing batting at the top in direct comparison with the bottom. New ball, often cloud cover, fresh seamers compared to old ball and sunshine. It's completely different.

Best not to go down the idiot route when you're consistently on your own in these threads.

[Cripps_orig]

That's the crux of your argument. And it's simply not true. On the odd occasion, playing overly aggressively will pay off. But generally batsmen are cautious because they need to be cautious. Your logic is not right either. Sport isn't transitive. Just because a no.11 scores 100 off 90 doesn't mean a no.3 should. But over time, the no.3 should definitely average more than the no.11.

A number 3 should try

Playing defensively and getting out which always happens helps no one.

There is overly aggressive but there is overly defensive and the latter is what Cook was doing today and there was no reason to be. This Aussie attack is shit. Put the pressure on them by scoring runs. Not on your own team be not scoring runs

[Cripps_orig]

Don't you understand the difference between batting at 1,2,3 and 11?

No one is denying there's more than one way to skin a cat. But for some reason you're placing batting at the top in direct comparison with the bottom. New ball, cloud cover compared to old ball and sunshine. It's completely different.

They are all cricket players aren't they? Number 11 batsmen will have to bat nearly every innings in a test so you're saying they shouldn't bother?