Arshavin

[LDG]

Just been watching some clips for a couple of years back.

The guys seems fatter there than now. But his movement of the ball before striking it is so much quicker.

They're all snap shots. All switching the ball quickly and getting the shot away powerfully and early before the keeper or defender can position themselves.

What a waste of talent.

Look, I know the guy is lazy, and admits so himself. But he's not a defender, he's one of those infuriating players that strolls around, but wins you games.

What has happened? I don't think it's fitness...as he looks trim to me, and he's still got pace.

To me it's confidence. In everything he does.

I wish we could get him back to his best. We need him.

[Letters]

Yep, mostly confidence IMO.

Probably best if we boo the shit of him when he comes on as a sub, that will help.

[Boss]

Doesn't have the desire to reach his best level for us as he's a lazy fuck with no ambition.

Sell him asap.

[LDG]

Yep, mostly confidence IMO.

Probably best if we boo the shit of him when he comes on as a sub, that will help.

Nobody was booing him. It was all aimed at Wenger.

True that Arsenal fans are frustrated at AA not performing, but I don't think anybody in the crowd holds any ill will towards him. He's still well liked. He was just unlucky that a stupid decision by Wenger caused that reaction.

Blame the manager, not the fans....

[Kano]

we need him out of the club right now. he sets a dangerous prescendent for younger players, who will look at this multi-capped national team captain sitting around not caring what happens and think this is what you can get away with once you've 'made it'.

[Fist of Lehmann]

we need him out of the club right now. he sets a dangerous prescendent for younger players, who will look at this multi-capped national team captain sitting around not caring what happens and think this is what you can get away with once you've 'made it'.

Or he could stand as a shining example of what can go wrong, that no matter how talented you are you can't relax. Sport is littered with guys like this, masses of talent, but for one reason or another, never win anything in the majors.

The question of whether he cares or not is a subjective one, some games he does try hard, though the tightness of his shorts suggests someone with a fairly relaxed attitude to training. It's an attitutude that's probably as much physical as mental, some people just don't train well, but that's not to absolve anyone who can't stay fit.

Confidence is clearly an issue. But to get the best out of him we'd need to give him a free role, and absolve him of defensive duties. And I doubt this is something we can offer. Our wingers need to do huge amounts of work backwards and forwards. This is true whether we have conventional fullback who push up high, or stopgap fullbacks who struggle to cope with opposition wingers.

[Kano]

Or he could stand as a shining example of what can go wrong, that no matter how talented you are you can't relax. Sport is littered with guys like this, masses of talent, but for one reason or another, never win anything in the majors.

i'm not too sure having that living and breathing example in and amongst a crop of players in a big club currently under quite a fair amount of pressure is really beneficial to anyone.

[Letters]

Nobody was booing him. It was all aimed at Wenger.

The booing that followed his name being called out was aimed at Arshavin.
Or even if it was aimed at Wenger's decision to put Arshavin on, it was still an idiotic and unhelpful reaction and you could see Arshavin's reaction to it. It destroyed any chance of a decent performance from him. Recently I think Arshavin's been working a lot harder. He's desperately lacking confidence but his workrate has been pretty decent. Booing when his name is called out isn't going to help.

[LDG]

The booing that followed his name being called out was aimed at Arshavin.
Or even if it was aimed at Wenger's decision to put Arshavin on, it was still an idiotic and unhelpful reaction and you could see Arshavin's reaction to it. It destroyed any chance of a decent performance from him. Recently I think Arshavin's been working a lot harder. He's desperately lacking confidence but his workrate has been pretty decent. Booing when his name is called out isn't going to help.

Nah, the boos were a carry on of the initial "booing", which was broken by a brief cheer for AOC. It just co-insided with his name being called out. It was followed by the fans singing "We Love You Arsenal" and the a section singing "You don't know what you're doing".

None of it was aimed at Arshavin, and the reaction would have been completely different if it had been Walcott coming off.

The fans could see that bringing AOC off was the wrong move. As he was having an impact. It was out of disbelief at a mad decision to bring off our most effective player.

NOTHING to do with Arshavin. Because if he had been bought on in place of Walcott, or Ramsey or Rosicky...not much would have been said. Normal sub, normal polite applause.

AND it wasn't an idiotic reaction. The UNHELPFUL decision was made by the manager, not the fans. EVERYONE knew it was coming, and is perhaps why the derision was so intense.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Nah, the boos were a carry on of the initial "booing", which was broken by a brief cheer for AOC. It just co-insided with his name being called out. It was followed by the fans singing "We Love You Arsenal" and the a section singing "You don't know what you're doing".

None of it was aimed at Arshavin, and the reaction would have been completely different if it had been Walcott coming off.

The fans could see that bringing AOC off was the wrong move. As he was having an impact. It was out of disbelief at a mad decision to bring off our most effective player.

NOTHING to do with Arshavin. Because if he had been bought on in place of Walcott, or Ramsey or Rosicky...not much would have been said. Normal sub, normal polite applause.

I agree with that, however if it was henry that came on for AOC would there have been boos?