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    Quote Originally Posted by GP View Post
    George A Romero has died.
    Not surprised.

    A female Dr Who
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    I hear they're letting women be actual doctors now.

    What's next, women driving?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GP View Post
    I hear they're letting women be actual doctors now.

    What's next, women driving?
    I heard there were women doctors who drive, long before this PC bullshit came along. Wonder how that was even possible? Not a single pussy whipped, virtue signalling male in sight, but the bitches still managed to grab a stethoscope and get behind the wheel. Must have been magic, or angels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GP View Post
    I hear they're letting women be actual doctors now.

    What's next, women driving?
    This is nothing to do with equality, it's pandering to a particularly stupid kind of political correctness.
    You want strong female characters? Great, go and invent some and make series about them, don't change the genders of existing characters.
    Make a spin-off series about a female timelord, that gives you scope for cross-over episodes and all kinds of interesting things.

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    Technically, it's not wrong because of the whole Time Lord regeneration/reincarnation concept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur View Post
    Technically, it's not wrong because of the whole Time Lord regeneration/reincarnation concept.
    Technically it's statistically close to impossible. 12 doctors, all male. Almost a mathematical certainty the 13th will be male too. Chances of being female, vanishingly small. Therefore -> ridiculously unrealistic character development. Sack the writer and give him testosterone injections.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur View Post
    Technically, it's not wrong because of the whole Time Lord regeneration/reincarnation concept.
    Except a timelord changing gender during a regeneration has never been a concept in the Dr Who world. The character's gender has never been ambiguous.
    The concept that timelords can change gender when they regenerate is an interesting one and had the Doctor been played by a mix of genders over the last 50 years then there would be no controversy. But that isn't so. It's not the fact they've done this which rankles so much as the reason why. It's not been done as part of character development, just purely for the sake of a form of political correctness which I don't think helps anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Technically it's statistically close to impossible. 12 doctors, all male. Almost a mathematical certainty the 13th will be male too. Chances of being female, vanishingly small. Therefore -> ridiculously unrealistic character development. Sack the writer and give him testosterone injections.
    Not a Dr. Who fan but this is interesting.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regene...hysical_change

    Extent of physical change

    The Doctor has always regenerated into a humanoid form. However, when explaining the process of regeneration to Rose at the end of "The Parting of the Ways", the Ninth Doctor suggests that his new form could have "two heads", or even "no head", and in the 2005 Children in Need special, which takes place immediately after that episode, the newly regenerated Tenth Doctor, while examining his new body, makes a point of checking that he has two arms, two legs and two hands, implying that regenerations can sometimes result in physically deformed or non-humanoid forms; it is not clear whether or not these two moments are intended as jokes.

    Whether Time Lords could change sex in regeneration was not explicitly addressed onscreen for much of the show's run. In the second part of The End of Time (2010), the Eleventh Doctor briefly checks for an Adam's apple upon regeneration to confirm if he is still a man. In "The Doctor's Wife" (2011), he reminisces about an old friend and fellow Time Lord, the Corsair, who had been both a man and a woman several times. In "The Night of the Doctor" (2013), the Sisterhood of Karn specify the Doctor could choose to change sex using one of their elixirs which influence the outcome of regeneration. "Dark Water/Death in Heaven" (2014) shows that the Doctor's longtime nemesis the the Master has become a woman, taking the name Missy. In "Hell Bent" (2015), the Time Lord General regenerates into a younger woman, and states that her previous incarnation was her only male form. In "World Enough and Time" (2017), the Doctor tells his companion, in reference to Missy, that Time Lords are mostly beyond gender norms and stereotypes. From "The Doctors" onwards, Jodie Whittaker will portray the Thirteenth Doctor, making hers the Doctor's first female incarnation. She will be the third woman to play an incarnation of the Doctor. The first was Joanna Lumley, in the 1999 Comic Relief spoof The Curse of Fatal Death, and the second was Arabella Weir in the Doctor Who Unbound Big Finish episode Exile.[32].

    In spin-off media, however, more drastic changes have been depicted. For example, in the Big Finish Productions audio Circular Time, a Time Lord known as Cardinal Zero regenerates into an avian life-form after being poisoned.[33]
    Again, if they've got this concept of regeneration playing out, they're free to do whatever they like. It's sci fi.

    Are you a hardcore fan of the series or jumping on to the argument because of the politics behind the switch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Except a timelord changing gender during a regeneration has never been a concept in the Dr Who world. The character's gender has never been ambiguous.
    The concept that timelords can change gender when they regenerate is an interesting one and had the Doctor been played by a mix of genders over the last 50 years then there would be no controversy. But that isn't so. It's not the fact they've done this which rankles so much as the reason why. It's not been done as part of character development, just purely for the sake of a form of political correctness which I don't think helps anyone.

    See above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur View Post
    Are you a hardcore fan of the series or jumping on to the argument because of the politics behind the switch?
    The latter, for me.
    It's notable that all the examples in the article you quoted are quite recently, for most of its history there has been no ambiguity that the Doctor is anything but a white male.
    It will actually probably a better show with the new Doctor, I never liked Capaldi in the role. As I said it's the reason they've done it which I find irritating.

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