Mesut Özil Thread (official!)

[Niall_Quinn]

It's a hot tub and it's not stuck in my crack, though she's not complaining. It's like a porno mag here but without the pages and your allowed to touch!

Oh well, I suppose, grudgingly, fair enough. Fucker.

[Niall_Quinn]

Disagree. An agenda is when the press go out to favour someone or something because they have a pre-arranged course of action. That is different from reacting to something that is going to achieve what all media is in business for - increase income. Of course we all know that journalists will always chase copy. But as long as it is after, rather than before the event they are reflecting the public's mood rather than trying to influence it.

The agenda is to keep the (ahem) news cycle going, whether that means daubing out the lowest common denominator in response to actual events or (increasingly) pulling creative from thin air when events can't keep pace with the demand for the tonnage of excrement required to fuel the modern media. This is why there is an unholy alliance between celebrities, politicians and other assorted whores, and the media. They all get a benefit from catching each others diseases. And if any of this genuinely reflects the public mood then we are finished as a species. I think people exist in two states, the normal, mainstream, commercial, brain dead everyday state, tempered from time to time with outbursts of humanity, civility and a reason for even being alive. The media always lives at the wrong end of that spectrum and its agenda is to appeal to the very worst in all of us and keep us in the sewer where consumption is an inevitable consequence.

Basically. Cunts who deserve to die.

[IBK]

The agenda is to keep the (ahem) news cycle going, whether that means daubing out the lowest common denominator in response to actual events or (increasingly) pulling creative from thin air when events can't keep pace with the demand for the tonnage of excrement required to fuel the modern media. This is why there is an unholy alliance between celebrities, politicians and other assorted whores, and the media. They all get a benefit from catching each others diseases. And if any of this genuinely reflects the public mood then we are finished as a species. I think people exist in two states, the normal, mainstream, commercial, brain dead everyday state, tempered from time to time with outbursts of humanity, civility and a reason for even being alive. The media always lives at the wrong end of that spectrum and its agenda is to appeal to the very worst in all of us and keep us in the sewer where consumption is an inevitable consequence.

Basically. Cunts who deserve to die.

No problem with your last comment. But an agenda to self advance is hardly a hidden one. I suppose the depressing thing is that most people aren't capable of drawing any distinction - or even think about the source of their knowledge.

[Niall_Quinn]

I didn't actually say it was hidden. On the contrary, they laugh about it on shows like the Sunday Supplement. All these tossers in influential positions are so comfortable now, so convinced they are what people want and need. One day people will have a real think about it and discover the very last thing we need are these self publicising regressive types. But I know what you mean when you mention the public mood. I can settle on complacency rather than an emotional reason for allowing the media to exist as it does.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

It's not unfeasible to think a German player in England would be subject to papers being more quick to criticise them against other players. Mertesacker has certainly had to come through it.

"Let's Blitz Fritz" and all that rubbish.

[Niall_Quinn]

It's not unfeasible to think a German player in England would be subject to papers being more quick to criticise them against other players. Mertesacker has certainly had to come through it.

"Let's Blitz Fritz" and all that rubbish.

Which is why I said Martin Samuel is a fat oaf. That and many, many other reasons.

[Power n Glory]

No problem with your last comment. But an agenda to self advance is hardly a hidden one. I suppose the depressing thing is that most people aren't capable of drawing any distinction - or even think about the source of their knowledge.

That's the insult. NQ assumes in most cases that nobody here can draw their own conclusions without being influenced by the media. It's patronising.

[Xhaka Can’t]

If it wasn't for you lot, and NQ in particular, I'd have been successful in completely tuning out the media.

[Niall_Quinn]

That's the insult. NQ assumes in most cases that nobody here can draw their own conclusions without being influenced by the media. It's patronising.

It's not an assumption, it's an observation.

[Niall_Quinn]

If it wasn't for you lot, and NQ in particular, I'd have been successful in completely tuning out the media.

You can't escape the media as they influence almost everyone around you. For example, you are forced to live in a world (or at least a part of it) that see's America as a progressive and liberal nation rather than a war driven corporation. I tuned them out for a while too but it left me wondering why almost everyone I met was delusional. At first I thought it was a bacteria or a germ that had invaded the planet from outer space and had rendered humanity mentally helpless. Then it dawned it was a lot more serious than that.