I don’t care what party you support - Imagine going to the ballot box and actually making a conscious decision of your own free will to vote for Jacob Rees Mogg.
I don’t care what party you support - Imagine going to the ballot box and actually making a conscious decision of your own free will to vote for Jacob Rees Mogg.
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Watching PMQs today, quite impressed with Sunak.
He comes across well, it does feel like we have a grown up in the room again.
You can't be serious?Originally Posted by Letters
He's just using all of Johnson's old attack lines. North London, Corbyn, tried to stop Brexit blah blah blah.
Nothing new from him at all. Same old cabinet, same old sound bites. Zero substance.
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The point is with Johnson and Truss it was open goal after open goal for Starmer.
Under Truss everything was complete chaos.
Things are going to be more stable now, for a bit at least.
I don’t think everything is going to be brilliant but at least we aren’t going to continue with the utter shambles we’ve had over the last year. Sunak called this in the last leadership election. He called bullshit on Truss’s plan and he was right. I mean, it was obvious he was right but at least he isn’t as delusional as she was.
It feels like we are going to have a functioning government again.
And this is why democracy fails.
A bit of window dressing and it’s all ok.
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No, it’s not all ok. Stop with the straw manning.
But it’s less bad than it’s been.
It's exactly as bad as it's been.
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It isn’t straw manning. My post is based upon your presumption of a functioning government.
The same party and the same people with the same fissures are unlikely to deliver a functioning government.
Even listening to Sunak in his acceptance speech, he continually referred to party before referencing country.
It’s window dressing. He isn’t as batshit as Truss, but it is just window dressing, controlled by a core of MPs who engineered a coronation because they couldn’t trust their members.
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Sunak proved today that he is effective at the dispatch box, because he reminded people of two things
A) That he was chancellor during the furlough scheme
B) Starmer was someone who tried to make Jeremy Corbyn prime minister
He made no attempt to defend the government record because let’s be fair it would be impossible. He’s also going to be making a lot of decisions which won’t at all be popular and it’s hard to know if the attacks on Labour will stick when people are feeling the squeeze.
Being more attached to truth and reality than Truss or Johnson doesn’t necessarily make him the grown up in the room but it’s all relative.
As John Curtice stated, he’s going to have to get a significant poll bounce just to be in a position where they are only slightly worse off than the Tories were in 1997. I think if he’d come in, in September there’s a good chance the Tories would be favourites to win a general election and he might feel confident in holding one next year but the reality is he knows they’d get trounced if an election was held tomorrow.
Could be a good thing for Labour though, complacency is setting in and Labour needs to do more than just wait to take power they need to show why they deserve it, not just that the Tories don’t.
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It’s far too soon to say whether this will be a functioning government, they’ve already delayed the budget because apart from anything else the optics behind releasing what’s likely to be a painful budget on Halloween won’t be good.
Plus there is no guarantee that they can get things passed. It really depends where the cuts are made, who will have to deal with tax increases etc….these issues may prove once again that the Tory parliamentary party is quite a fractured coalition
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