Random Arsenal Shit (When it's not worth starting a thread)

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

There are vociferous sects of German society that very much believe in the kind of regime that Erdogan seems to represent, but I agree with the point that he should have quickly distanced himself from Erdogan or at least made the line between his position and the Erdogan's very clear.

I would agree though that whatever they (DVB/individuals) see him as, be it German, Turkish-German or even Turkish, they should be consistent with their view then they wouldn't leave themselves open to some of this stuff.

[Power n Glory]

I'm sure there are groups in Germany that believe in Erdogan's type of regime. From what I've read, there is a divide within the Turkish/German community over Erdogan. I didn't realise that at the time the picture was taken, Turkish migrants living in Germany were eligible to vote in the Turkish election. It's naive of Ozil not to see that he was used as part of an election campaign. How can you pose with the guy for a picture referring to him as 'My President' yet try to say this wasn't political? Not too long before the picture, Erdogan compared German officials to Nazi's. This was bound to cause a shit storm and he should made a similar sort of statement that he currently has on IG accusing the German FA of racism. He's played right into the hands of racist right wingers that are anti immigration and those extremist nuts that are also anti immigration / anti West. Surely, if he had friends and relatives that were anti Erdogan, they'd have advised him to issue a massive apology.

[Toronto Gooner]

How can you pose with the guy for a picture referring to him as 'My President'

Do you have a link to an actual quote from Ozil saying this? In his retirement statement, Ozil writes: "For me, having a picture with Presi*dent Erdogan wasn’t about politics or elections, it was about me respecting the highest office of my family’s country." You might argue semantics but the words, and therefore the meaning, are different.

[Power n Glory]

Do you have a link to an actual quote from Ozil saying this? In his retirement statement, Ozil writes: "For me, having a picture with Presi*dent Erdogan wasn’t about politics or elections, it was about me respecting the highest office of my family’s country." You might argue semantics but the words, and therefore the meaning, are different.

Dude, you're still arguing at a very surface level on this one. I don't think there is much else we can talk about. The funny thing is, I bet if Ozil had taken a picture in another teams shirt and the papers whipped up a story about a possible transfer, I bet there would be fury and fans urging him to clear up the confusion immediately.

[Toronto Gooner]

I came across a couple of comments on the Guardian website that said that it was Gundogan who wrote "my president" on the shirt given to Erdogan.

It is a bit of a strawman to write about Ozil wearing the shirt of another club team. I have never read one but I strongly suspect that most, if not all, will contain a clause specifically prohibiting the wearing of a shirt that is not the player's club or national team.

[Ralpheroo72]

Can I just say that our new Third kit is a pile of horse shit. It’s an abomination, puma are taking the absolute piss with that latest effort.

[GP]

Loving the new 3rd kit.

[Özim]

Can I just say that our new Third kit is a pile of horse shit. It’s an abomination, puma are taking the absolute piss with that latest effort.

I'm with you, awful choice of colour, really looks cheap.

[Marc Overmars]

Third kits tend to be horrific.

Though I did like last years black and pink one.

[Letters]

Not technically Arsenal related but wasn't sure where else to put it

https://www.theguardian.com/football...larreal-injury

Santi

Wish him well.