Random Arsenal Shit (When it's not worth starting a thread)

[Globalgunner]

They may both have the same moniker "billionaire but they are not in the same league of capability. Usmanov is worth about 10 times what Kroenke can lay claim to. He also wont take a penny out of the club. He is that rich. To him Arsenal will be the same as Chelsea is to Abramovich. A nice mega Ferrari that he can show off to his friends on the weekends. We will be a different club under Usmanov no doubt. We may not like his ilk but he is not the same as Kroenke, who can be aptly described as a "scrounger" billionaire.

Lets all dip our hands in or pockets and buy the pair of them out of the club.

[Letters]

Sounds like a choice between a leech or a sugar-daddy.
Ug. How did this happen?

Footballe

[Niall_Quinn]

Major news coming out of the US tonight which could have serious implications for the club. Our much beloved majority owner Stan Kroenke who also owns the NFL team the St Louis Rams has won his battle to relocate his team from the city of St Louis to LA, which is 2,000 miles away. Consquentially they'll be call the "Los Angeles Rams" from here onwards.

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/201...tion-to-follow

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...o-los-angeles/

Pretty cuntish move done probably purely for money reasons as LA is a bigger market than St Louis. Now whilst I don't think Kroenke would ever harbour any dreams of relocating Arsenal away from North London (it's not a practice common place here unlike in the NFL where it happens all the time), the worry is that he has promised to build a brand new spanking stadium in LA for the relocation (which is how he got approval for the move), costing many millions of dollars which has to be financed somehow. The dickhead is already skimming £3 million a year in bogus "consulting fees" out of the club so I wouldn't put it past him to start diverting larger sums of money out of the club towards this new stadium project in LA.

The guy is a fucking parasite and the sooner he's forced out the club the better tbh. Unfortunately, our only other option right now seems to be Usmanov who while less likely to leech money out of the club, is also throughly unpleasant figure with a large chunk of his business dealings associated with criminality.

They were originally the LA Rams so in effect they are going home. In the '80s LA had two franchises, the Rams and the Raiders. Then the Rams pissed off to St Louis and the Raiders to Oakland so it makes a lot of sense a city the size of LA gets a franchise back. This will obviously be mainly concerned with cash, but there are probably other reasons too. Haven't followed the story but wouldn't jump two-footed into any conclusions either.

[Marc Overmars]

He'll probably get a stack load of investors and loan the rest, there won't be enough coming out of here that would sustain the payments for that new stadium and keep us ticking over.

And Usmanov is not the answer. Remember the time when Kroenke was the 'good' guy and the Russian was ISIS? How that perception has changed with fans over the years, due to the American's actions and the innate wish for something different fans pine for. No billionaire is the answer for the club. They are all here for one reason. But we're stuck with them for the foreseeable future while the current influx of money in the game remains intact. Passed from one to the other when they've optimised their opportunity to maximise their investment.

Trust us to get stuck with the one billionaire owner who's tight as fuck.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

He'll probably get a stack load of investors and loan the rest, there won't be enough coming out of here that would sustain the payments for that new stadium and keep us ticking over.

And Usmanov is not the answer. Remember the time when Kroenke was the 'good' guy and the Russian was ISIS? How that perception has changed with fans over the years, due to the American's actions and the innate wish for something different fans pine for. No billionaire is the answer for the club. They are all here for one reason. But we're stuck with them for the foreseeable future while the current influx of money in the game remains intact. Passed from one to the other when they've optimised their opportunity to maximise their investment.

True that. The only way Kroenke can really make big money out of us is through selling up - £3 million a year in sham "consulting fees" is merely pocket change to him and wouldn't be enough to even dig the foundations of a new stadium.

We're in the same situation as United. With both of us being self sufficient mega clubs, we really don't need parasitical owners however that's exactly what we've both ended up with. In an ideal world a non criminal/dodgy Abramovich type figure would be perfect. Someone who's personally invested in the on-field perfmances and who's rich enough to not take money out of the club. Thing is with Kroenke, he wouldn't even give a shit if we finished 17th every year as long as the value of his shares didn't decline.

Also to update, the BBC are reporting that the new stadium in LA will cost £1.29 billion and he also has to pay a £311 million "relocation fee", so in total around £1.6 billion.

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/american-football/35299879

As Global kind of alludes to, Kroenke isn't really that cash rich - most of his wealth is tied up in his sports clubs, so it'd be a monumental challenge for him to raise that. I expect a flurry of sponsorship deals and as you point to, loans.

They were originally the LA Rams so in effect they are going home. In the '80s LA had two franchises, the Rams and the Raiders. Then the Rams pissed off to St Louis and the Raiders to Oakland so it makes a lot of sense a city the size of LA gets a franchise back. This will obviously be mainly concerned with cash, but there are probably other reasons too. Haven't followed the story but wouldn't jump two-footed into any conclusions either.

Yeah, googled it and you're right though apparently before they were in LA they were in Cleveland so technically I suppose that's their original home.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Louis_Rams

NFL teams

Why can't they stay in one place? Terrible sporting culture tbh.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

It has always been a lesser of the evils scenario.

[Kano]

True that. The only way Kroenke can really make big money out of us is through selling up - £3 million a year in sham "consulting fees" is merely pocket change to him and wouldn't be enough to even dig the foundations of a new stadium.

We're in the same situation as United. With both of us being self sufficient mega clubs, we really don't need parasitical owners however that's exactly what we've both ended up with. In an ideal world a non criminal/dodgy Abramovich type figure would be perfect. Someone who's personally invested in the on-field perfmances and who's rich enough to not take money out of the club. Thing is with Kroenke, he wouldn't even give a shit if we finished 17th every year as long as the value of his shares didn't decline.

Also to update, the BBC are reporting that the new stadium in LA will cost £1.29 billion and he also has to pay a £311 million "relocation fee", so in total around £1.6 billion.

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/american-football/35299879

As Global kind of alludes to, Kroenke isn't really that cash rich - most of his wealth is tied up in his sports clubs, so it'd be a monumental challenge for him to raise that. I expect a flurry of sponsorship deals and as you point to, loans.



Yeah, googled it and you're right though apparently before they were in LA they were in Cleveland so technically I suppose that's their original home.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Louis_Rams

NFL teams

Why can't they stay in one place? Terrible sporting culture tbh.

Goldman Sachs are quite big players in this sort of stadium move thing and I've read that this stadium would be shared by two teams, so effectively halving the costs for each owner.

[Maestro]

Playing on the Word Play app and insisted on ignorantly using the word "moran" all day, wondering why it's being declined.

On the train home and it's then, only just clicked

[AFC Leveller]

Does anyone else feel we should go all out to sign get Guardiola? i know City are favourites but so what? if no one else makes an approach then of course they are favourites. We have talked about missing big opportunities over the last few years whether it was the chance to sign a particular player or the chance to gain ground on our rivals etc and we cannot keep missing big opportunties when they come our way. He used to come to London colney and watch Wenger at work, he would probably choose london over manchester and we can defnitely match his ambition. Wenger always says he wants the best for the club and this is the time for him to step aside and convince Pep to join us.

[Marc Overmars]

He would be the ideal choice but I'm a bit wary of how he'd cope without unlimited funds and a ready made selection of some of the best players in the world. Though you can't argue that he'd command the respect of every single player and we'd probably be an even bigger draw for potential top signings.

Unless the fairy tale scenario of us winning the league and Wenger walking off into the sunset happens this year, we are going to miss the boat on Guardiola.