Random Arsenal Shit (When it's not worth starting a thread)

[fakeyank]

And then Wenger would be paraded shoulder high through the streets of Islington and awarded a new contract!

That's like being between a rock and a hard place. I despise both Mourinho and Wenger... at this point, I think I can fathom Wenger being paraded over Mourinho getting banned for life.

[Kano]

Ancelotti is the only manager I can think of that hasn't been a dick at some point in the media.

But at the same time, when you're faced with such cretinous scum almost everyday making your job even harder then it needs to be, prodding and poking you constantly for a reaction so they can justify their own jobs, it's hard not to blame most managers for taking the bait occasionally. You have to have a big enough ego to take on a role where you are managing a few dozen over growing or damaged egos. But then there's Maureen, who just feeds on being a snivelling prick.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

That's like being between a rock and a hard place. I despise both Mourinho and Wenger... at this point, I think I can fathom Wenger being paraded over Mourinho getting banned for life.

Being perfectly honest here, although for at least five years now I've wanted Wenger gone.....the idea of despising him seems beyond me

Despite the protestations of people like Zim, there is absolutely no question that Wenger will leave the club in a far better state than which he found it

He lost it ages ago, and his position is untenable when he is only ever a few bad results from a full scale fan revolt. But i am in no doubt that when he does go a lot of the resentment people feel towards him will dissipate.

[Letters]

I have raised my eyebrows about this before. I understand people thinking Wenger should be replaced, I think we pretty much all think that now. But despise? Really?
FY's take, from what I understand, is that Wenger is only concerned now about the business side of things, making money for himself and the board.
If he believes that then I can understand a sense of disappointment, betrayal even.
I don't agree though. Wenger has spent a lot of money in the last few years, if he only wanted to keep us in the top 4 he didn't need to do that.
I think he lacks the ability to win us the title but not the desire.

[fakeyank]

FY's take, from what I understand, is that Wenger is only concerned now about the business side of things, making money for himself and the board.
If he believes that then I can understand a sense of disappointment, betrayal even.

Thanks for summarizing that for me. To me, the board and Wenger are one and the same.

[Letters]

Thanks for summarizing that for me. To me, the board and Wenger are one and the same.

But as I said I don't agree. The sort of players he's bought in the last few years seem designed to push us on, if he wanted to minimise spend and maximise profits and keep us scraping into the top 4 he didn't need to do that.
It's lack of ability in my view, not lack of desire.

[Power n Glory]

Yep and to be fair i see your point in pointing out that there is a lot of passive agressive sniping that comes from Wenger, he has a kind of purity a lot of other managers find insufferable

But as stubborn and as sanctimonious as he is, i think he can't match Mourinho for the simply toxic nature of his personality.

There is a very interesting article Le Grove placed on his twitter feed about Mourinho's current motivations being more than of avarice than ambition (citing the fact that the deal to bring him to Old Trafford was held up over a conflict of car sponsorship where Mourinho is being paid to advertise a competing brand to Chevrolet as one example).

I've never been a fan of Wenger talking about other clubs business in the transfer window. He kept on sniping away at Chelsea and Jose took it personally. Wenger is more subtle with his digs but Jose goes over board and takes a tank to a knife fight. I find it funny. But there are some scumbaggery things he'll do that I hate to see. Trying to embarrass Mata recently was one of them. As much as I hate Man Utd, they won't stand for that sort of thing and I'm guessing they had a word with him about that.

I'll have to check Le Grove out. Haven't checked it out all week.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Mourinho exhibits for me many traits associated with Narcassistic personality disorder

The reason these feuds happen between him and other managers is not like with Ferguson where he's trying to psych people. He appears to be genuinely very thin skinned, when he called Wenger a specialist in failure it wasn't a calculated comment it was an angry reaction because he took the fear of failure comment so personally.

He makes things about him, and has a need to belittle other people and their achievements (not just Wenger he was famous for doing it with Pep Guardiola) in order to cope with his own sense of inferiority when faced with a genuine rival/challenger to his supremacy.

Twice with Chelsea and with Real Madrid he has ended up on a self destructive path by creating enmity between himself, the playing staff and the senior management hierarchy.

The second time he left Chelsea he didn't seem to give any impression that he cared what he was doing to the club.

He wanted the club to sack him so he would get a massive pay out

His aggression towards Wenger is, this guy doesn't know his place in the pecking order. And he's made comments that I've taken personally so I want to physically hurt him.

[Gooner23]

I heard a clip from his press conference earlier where he says how he's a good person and does lots of charity work. The fact he even feels the need to say that implies he's massively over compensating. Can't stand the bloke, absolute tosser.

[Marc Overmars]

Charity work.

More like some kind of vanity project. Everyone look at me, I'm helping!