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    We're making a right mess of a transfer window once again, now into August Lacazette is our only proper signing (don't count the freebie) and we're nowhere near getting anyone else and don't seem to be able to shift any of the players we don't want either and on top of that we've got our 3 best players out of contract next summer so it's even worse than usual.

    I'm not surprised, it's expected from us, to those who wanted Wenger to sign on, well done, maybe it'll all change next year or the year after that when he signs on again. It's also possible that we'll be able to take a lift to Mars or the moon in the next year or two, keep the faith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    We're making a right mess of a transfer window once again, now into August Lacazette is our only proper signing (don't count the freebie)
    So if Sanchez goes on a free next summer that won't be a proper signing for someone?

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    Are we really going to stick to our guns and refuse Alexis the extra 25k per week he wants? It'll cost several trillion quid to adequately replace him the way this crazy market is heading, so it's way, way cheaper to pay him what he wants. I can't fathom why we are still playing the wage structure game in a league that has no wage structures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    So if Sanchez goes on a free next summer that won't be a proper signing for someone?
    No cos he's not some unknown unproven nobody, he's performed and scored goals at the highest level.

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    Remember how this all began? We heard Alexis and Ozil wanted 300k per week. People said crazy! No way. But if the supposed experts at the club had their finger on the pulse they'd have quickly realised that was the going rate. They could have agreed and got the two players signed up and avoided all this speculation. Of course that would have relied on that selfish git Wenger sorting out his contract quickly as well. We all knew the guy was staying, it was no great secret. So months beforehand he could have signed, instead of hanging around waiting for a cup win to justify what couldn't be justified regardless.

    Who are the "experts" at the club who should have seen this developing and acted decisively? Ivan? For all his talk, he's fast asleep at the wheel and a full lap behind the pack. He's let the Wenger situation develop. He let the contracts of our key players wind down. Kroenke is the invisible man (maybe he'll make an appearance on his new blood lust channel) so this falls on Ivan. We all know what Wenger's going to do, but he's not in charge and it's beyond the time Ivan finds his balls and lays down the law. Sign here Wenger, or we'll announce you're leaving. End of.

    With the Wenger deal done, focus could have turned to the players. So who are the "experts" that are supposed to be tracking the state of the market and figuring out valuations and trends? I really don't know. Who is it supposed to be? It's probably Wenger again, isn't it? The guy who decides when, who, how and where in every instance and on every matter. Fucking ridiculous. We all know he's got zero clue in terms of this market. We all know he's got deep personal issues when it comes to engaging with the market, spending money, paying senior players. No problem paying tons to youngsters and shit players though. Reports in the media today we can't shift the dross because nobody wants to pay the wages.

    But do you see how Wenger's incompetence and selfishness and Ivan's lack of balls has inexorably brought us to this point?

    Then we had the Lemar farce. 30 million? Really? Is that our resident expert at work again? If we'd have gone in with the current 50 mill bid from the outset, what's the chance Lemar would be wearing an Arsenal shirt now? Instead we do a variation on Suarez again, drag the whole thing out, lose the momentum and let our rivals sweep in and do their business.

    Wenger's fingerprint are everywhere. Hence one huge fucking mess. And somebody better coax the pitiful Ivan out of the corner and demand the fucker gets a grip. That would be Stan's job I guess?

    Who?

    Where did he go?

    What a farce.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Are we really going to stick to our guns and refuse Alexis the extra 25k per week he wants? It'll cost several trillion quid to adequately replace him the way this crazy market is heading, so it's way, way cheaper to pay him what he wants. I can't fathom why we are still playing the wage structure game in a league that has no wage structures.
    A wage structure that involves paying rubbish players big amounts so that they don't feel left out and don't get jealous (the very same players we're now stuck with and can't get rid of - they probably don't want to leave either, nice life earning big bucks to live in London), what loon came up with that deluded idea, oh wait we know who

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Are we really going to stick to our guns and refuse Alexis the extra 25k per week he wants? It'll cost several trillion quid to adequately replace him the way this crazy market is heading, so it's way, way cheaper to pay him what he wants. I can't fathom why we are still playing the wage structure game in a league that has no wage structures.
    Been saying this for a while now. It goes back to when we let Flamini leave on a free. We have some real idiots running the club. We pay above and beyond for the players that are far from reaching their potential and just happy to start games but we won't pay the wages for players that are in demand and can command a higher wage.

    We've now reached the same sort of situation for Ox, Wilshere, Jenkinson and Gibbs that we've seen before with the likes of Bendy, Diaby, Denilson and Walcott. Injury prone players earning too much. Players not good enough but on high wages so difficult to shift. Or a player with potential but inconsistent that could earn way above what they should be earning. All because we've paid way too much too early. We don't learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Remember how this all began? We heard Alexis and Ozil wanted 300k per week. People said crazy! No way. But if the supposed experts at the club had their finger on the pulse they'd have quickly realised that was the going rate. They could have agreed and got the two players signed up and avoided all this speculation. Of course that would have relied on that selfish git Wenger sorting out his contract quickly as well. We all knew the guy was staying, it was no great secret. So months beforehand he could have signed, instead of hanging around waiting for a cup win to justify what couldn't be justified regardless.

    Who are the "experts" at the club who should have seen this developing and acted decisively? Ivan? For all his talk, he's fast asleep at the wheel and a full lap behind the pack. He's let the Wenger situation develop. He let the contracts of our key players wind down. Kroenke is the invisible man (maybe he'll make an appearance on his new blood lust channel) so this falls on Ivan. We all know what Wenger's going to do, but he's not in charge and it's beyond the time Ivan finds his balls and lays down the law. Sign here Wenger, or we'll announce you're leaving. End of.

    With the Wenger deal done, focus could have turned to the players. So who are the "experts" that are supposed to be tracking the state of the market and figuring out valuations and trends? I really don't know. Who is it supposed to be? It's probably Wenger again, isn't it? The guy who decides when, who, how and where in every instance and on every matter. Fucking ridiculous. We all know he's got zero clue in terms of this market. We all know he's got deep personal issues when it comes to engaging with the market, spending money, paying senior players. No problem paying tons to youngsters and shit players though. Reports in the media today we can't shift the dross because nobody wants to pay the wages.

    But do you see how Wenger's incompetence and selfishness and Ivan's lack of balls has inexorably brought us to this point?

    Then we had the Lemar farce. 30 million? Really? Is that our resident expert at work again? If we'd have gone in with the current 50 mill bid from the outset, what's the chance Lemar would be wearing an Arsenal shirt now? Instead we do a variation on Suarez again, drag the whole thing out, lose the momentum and let our rivals sweep in and do their business.

    Wenger's fingerprint are everywhere. Hence one huge fucking mess. And somebody better coax the pitiful Ivan out of the corner and demand the fucker gets a grip. That would be Stan's job I guess?

    Who?

    Where did he go?

    What a farce.
    Just listening to the Arsenal Vision Podcast. Tim Stillman was at the QA session where Ivan Gazidis was speaking and said for the first time, he saw Ivan fluff his lines when someone asked if it was a unanimous decision to renew Wenger's contract. He skirted around the question without answering which suggests it wasn't unanimous. From what I recall, Wenger bypassed the Board and spoke directly to Stan Kroenke. Either way, we have a Board that have no balls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    No cos he's not some unknown unproven nobody.
    Nor is this bloke. Obviously he's no Sanchez but people who watch the league he plays have spoken highly of him.
    The point is the fact he is free is not a valid reason for discounting him as a good signing.

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    If nothing major happens for us know until End of August - surely this window goes down as Wengers greatest fuck up - which takes some doing. Unlike other years where we had qualified for the C.L, even the fuckers in charge who bow as he walks past would have to question how their share price is to be affected by the negative Wenger effect.
    Gazidis told us we were going to be different from now on & the emphasis would be to buy quality players to improve the squad. Unless something happens in the next few weeks, again the powers that be have lied in order to back their man.

    Forget talk of Lemar & Mbappe - the league table last year quiet clearly shows our issues. We can score goals in line with the top teams but we defend like a mid-table team. Yes, we needed a quality striker, have done for ages but nobody has mentioned the fact that we have a ageing keeper with no quality understudy. In my opinion Kos is the only defender we have, particularly now playing a back 3 of any quality. We saw at the weekend that we are being asked to play football from the back - how many goals & chances came from us playing around at the back, being caught on the ball deep in our own half - YOU CANT DO THIS WITH NON FOOTBALLING DEFENDERS.
    We have been linked with Seri & Carvalho - to fill positions where we already have numbers. Maybe Seri would be an improvement but Carvalho is a useless blob who Wengers been in for ages whilst no other top team has been interested. If we get him we'll pay more than we would have 2 years ago when we could have bought him were it not for Wengers reluctance to pay the money that is required. Exactly like the Lacazette situation, where an extra 10 mill a few years ago would have got him for less than whats its now cost.
    If we seriously want Lemar - another good year for Monaco would mean us having to pay the kind of money that Wenger seems reluctant to pay now - when does he learn.
    However, why would we want Lemar if Sanchez is staying - as Le Prof is promising us. Lemar is a left sided attacking midfielder which is Sanchez's role. How does he improve the starting 11. If we get him & Sanchez leaves it will weaken our starting 11 because the lad is simply not as good.
    We have had pre-season, played the Emirates Cup & now we have the Charity Shield - again players badly needed to improve the team have not been acquired & all the time the price goes up & the clock ticks down - same old story. Everton & Man City didnt seem to have trouble doing big business early doors. Did Wenger not realise that the Monaco team was going to ripped to shreds, so the later you leave things the less likely they are going to want to sell. How long did it take City to sort out the Mendy deal?

    Having said all of the above, we have to remember where we actually stand in the footballing world now. We are a team going backwards under a dinosaur manager who's board is too scared to take a shit without asking Wengers permission. Lets not believe or think we deserve to sign world class players because we don't. World class players normally want to compete at the top - why would they want to join us.

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