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    I doubt he arranged a press conference just to talk about this.
    He's basically right although given that we are one of the "haves" it doesn't excuse our failure to compete.

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    Wenger said it was clear that "unpredictability has gone down".
    Yes, I yearn for the good the 90s when it was a choice between Man Utd and Man Utd for the league title.

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    Ha. Well, strangely the billionaires barging in have actually meant the English league is more competitive than most.
    But that is pretty much the only way of achieving success in the game these days.
    What Leicester did was remarkable but they don't have the money to sustain success.
    The game has been screwed for years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    I doubt he arranged a press conference just to talk about this.
    He's basically right although given that we are one of the "haves" it doesn't excuse our failure to compete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ View Post
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42916936

    Why does he talk about these things as if they are in anyway pertinent to him

    We have failed to win more games than we’ve won in the league this season

    Money has spoilt the game but it’s had no bearing on his catalogue of failures
    Always complaining and making excuses, he's got it hard though getting his millions a year whilst his team are not performing and never competing for the top prizes, ironic that he doesn't even mention managers and players getting paid too much ruining the game.

    Personally I prefer the model of those other clubs, at least they're not fleecing the fans, our net spend is shocking, that's not being self sustaining, it's being greedy and not willing to put any of your own money in, a billionaire owns us just like every other club but ours is happy to take and give nothing back, at least the billionaires at City, Chelsea, PSG put their own money in.

    The guy has all the excuses under the sun, as MO said anything to take the spotlight off his failures, from Arsenals point of view alone Wenger is destroying football, pound for pound worst manager in football.
    Last edited by Özim; 02-02-2018 at 01:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    Always complaining and making excuses, he's got it hard though getting his millions a year whilst his team are not performing and never competing for the top prizes, ironic that he doesn't even mention managers and players getting paid too much ruining the game.

    Personally I prefer the model of those other clubs, at least they're not fleecing the fans, our net spend is shocking, that's not being self sustaining, it's being greedy and not willing to put any of your own money in, a billionaire owns us just like every other club but ours is happy to take and give nothing back, at least the billionaires at City, Chelsea, PSG put their own money in.

    The guy has all the excuses under the sun, as MO said anything to take the spotlight off his failures, from Arsenals point of view alone Wenger is destroying football, pound for pound worst manager in football.
    I don’t like either model

    I think financial doping has stratified football more than it ever was

    The only clubs that can break into the European elite are the ones owned by oligarchs

    Look at the domination of the champions league of clubs like Real Madrid and Barcelona

    The fact that he makes it an excuse for turning us into an easy to beat Joke is a joke in itself , but it doesn’t make what he says untrue. Maybe we are crying for the moon but football has lost its lustre.

    There’s always been dominant teams, United dominated English football in the 90s. But what we have currently seems to be a matter of Chelsea and City passing the title between each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ View Post
    I don’t like either model

    I think financial doping has stratified football more than it ever was

    The only clubs that can break into the European elite are the ones owned by oligarchs

    Look at the domination of the champions league of clubs like Real Madrid and Barcelona

    The fact that he makes it an excuse for turning us into an easy to beat Joke is a joke in itself , but it doesn’t make what he says untrue. Maybe we are crying for the moon but football has lost its lustre.

    There’s always been dominant teams, United dominated English football in the 90s. But what we have currently seems to be a matter of Chelsea and City passing the title between each other.
    The Champions League has always been dominated by Real and Barca. It's always been a competition for the biggest clubs. A major factor to why we're seeing the two Spanish giants feature so often comes back to the Italian and Dutch leagues falling apart.

    Also, the Messi and Ronaldo factor is a strong one. These two freaks of football have gone on longer than most. Great players of the past often wind down once they've won everything...these two just keep on going.

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    I don’t disagree but I think it’s become increasingly stratified as a result of money.

    In addition look at the Bundesliga, whilst Bayern were the dominant team no team has ever won the Bundesliga more than three times in a row in the post war period but Bayern are nailed on to win six times in a row.

    No they aren’t an oligarch owned club but essentially what you have now is that unless you’re a historically giant club or you’re owned by a foreign potentate you have no chance.

    Yes it’s always been hard, but now it’s almost completely a closed shop.

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    Taken from Facebook:

    Ornstein talked to Arseblog, here are the important points:

    -Alexis Sanchez fought with Koscielny in training. He was a problem in the dressing room, even though Arsene Wenger denied it. As Wenger would never criticize his players in public. Alexis wasn't very popular in the squad, kept to himself. Also, Alexis was never given a contract extension after the summer window as his relationship with his teammates wasn't good, which is very different from Ozil's case.

    -Alexis did love his time at Arsenal.

    -Mino Raiola is the one who gave United and Arsenal the idea about Mkhitaryan/Alexis swap

    -Sven Mislintat pushed the Aubameyang deal. Gazdisis, Sven and Hussy getting photographed put a lot of pressure on them as Arsenal fans knew they were in Germany for Auba so to return to England without him would anger the fans.

    -BVB got annoyed by how low the first offers were.

    -Giroud was not pressing for any move. He was happy at Arsenal. But he was needed to make the Aubameyang transfer happen.

    -Arsene Wenger has never been totally convinced by Alexandre Lacazette. Arsenal were looking at both him and Auba in summer, but Lacazette was cheaper so the board pushed the Lacazette deal.

    -Ornstein has heard Arsenal are looking to offer Elneny a new contract.

    -It really takes a horrendus result in a game (like 8-2 vs United) to make Arsenal active in the transfer market.

    -Mustafi was offered to WBA in a swap deal for Evans last summer.

    -Arsene Wengers power is being diluted. Gazidis preparing for the post-Wenger era. But his power being diluted is not a bad thing for Wenger, as thats how it was when David Dein was here.

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    We should have screwed Chelsea to haedes. That interview was interesting though.....

    Especially the part about us not actually offering Sanchez a contract he was actually happy with....

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