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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    Yeah me too at least there's rumours about him, of course we'd have no chance of getting him as he'd have his pick of clubs and I think he's said before he has no interest in signing for us.

    Probably all the more reason for Wenger to go in for him, he seems to be confident about us signing players who categorically say they aren't interested.
    Maybe we can bid £92m for him then withdraw the offer 5 minutes later once it's accepted.

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    These new "targets" coincided with another piece that confirmed we've dropped the slow motion chase for Lemar because Barca have expressed a passing interest in the player.

    As always:

    IF no other club of note want the player;
    IF we aren't being used by an agent to influence real negotiations elsewhere;
    IF the player can be successfully lied to and convinced the club has an ounce of ambition;
    IF the player falls for the fake promises of other talent being brought in;
    IF the player meets Wenger's bizarre 1990's valuation criteria;
    IF no other player in the squad will be put out by the potential new arrival;
    IF we don't blow the whole deal by offering a pathetic bid and souring relations with the other club;
    IF we don't drag the whole process out with nickel and dime increments to the bid;
    IF we can get past the club suddenly claiming we have no money;
    IF we can get the deal concluded before the last few seconds of the transfer window.

    We still won't sign a decent player because Elneny can also play there as well you know. And Santi is coming back. And Jack is like a new signing.

    What's really happening this January window and in the summer is our best players are walking away after another round of glorious fuck-ups by the fraud who claims to be a top, top, top, manager.

    By now, after all this time, surely it is safe to assume the absolute worst outcome? The inevitable outcome. The same old outcome. We've been through the cycle twice in the last decade and only the stupidest, stupidest player will fall for round 3.

    Wenger said he wouldn't damage the club. But he has. Badly. It will take a long time for Arsenal to regain credibility, mainly because it's going to take a long time for this bastard to leave. And nothing good can happen until he's gone.

    Therefore, all these transfer stories are bullshit. It's either the media filling column inches or the club going through the usual motions.

    Our transfer policy (if you can call it that) is a joke, it's embarrassing, it's pushing us out of contention long term and it won't be changing any time soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    These new "targets" coincided with another piece that confirmed we've dropped the slow motion chase for Lemar because Barca have expressed a passing interest in the player.

    As always:

    IF no other club of note want the player;
    IF we aren't being used by an agent to influence real negotiations elsewhere;
    IF the player can be successfully lied to and convinced the club has an ounce of ambition;
    IF the player falls for the fake promises of other talent being brought in;
    IF the player meets Wenger's bizarre 1990's valuation criteria;
    IF no other player in the squad will be put out by the potential new arrival;
    IF we don't blow the whole deal by offering a pathetic bid and souring relations with the other club;
    IF we don't drag the whole process out with nickel and dime increments to the bid;
    IF we can get past the club suddenly claiming we have no money;
    IF we can get the deal concluded before the last few seconds of the transfer window.

    We still won't sign a decent player because Elneny can also play there as well you know. And Santi is coming back. And Jack is like a new signing.

    What's really happening this January window and in the summer is our best players are walking away after another round of glorious fuck-ups by the fraud who claims to be a top, top, top, manager.

    By now, after all this time, surely it is safe to assume the absolute worst outcome? The inevitable outcome. The same old outcome. We've been through the cycle twice in the last decade and only the stupidest, stupidest player will fall for round 3.

    Wenger said he wouldn't damage the club. But he has. Badly. It will take a long time for Arsenal to regain credibility, mainly because it's going to take a long time for this bastard to leave. And nothing good can happen until he's gone.

    Therefore, all these transfer stories are bullshit. It's either the media filling column inches or the club going through the usual motions.

    Our transfer policy (if you can call it that) is a joke, it's embarrassing, it's pushing us out of contention long term and it won't be changing any time soon.
    Good post. Notice how the likes of city and Chelsea are ruthless when buying players. There was one player city were linked with on a Monday and by Tuesday evening it had been wrapped up, can't remember who it was but that was incredible to see. Compare that to us.. we could have had Lemar at the beginning of the summer but we decided to wait and wait and dither, when the end of the window came Monaco decided they didn't want to sell because half their team had left.

    As I've said before, it will be a very interesting summer if both ozil and Sanchez walk away. We'll see how we replace them. If we go out and spend adequately then we could turn back into a top 4 side. If we go cheap or promote youth we'll probably morph into a fully pledged top 6 side.

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    Transfer dealings (if you call them that) are a joke, there's no plan, no common sense, no urgency and no money (if you believe them). Some people still seem to go into transfer windows with hope, still dreaming of these pipedream signings and convincing themselves deals for top players are in the offing (like Mbappe last summer, what a joke that once, we had more chance of signing Jesus (the original one)).

    So yes we can look forward to losing our best players, signing some guy noone ha ever heard of for some ridiculous money because he's super super quality, then dragging out BS deals all summer only for them to fail at the last moment after we've spent all summer doing nothing at all but sitting on our backsides, then at the last moment we'll panic guy some totally unsuitable players and start the season poorly yet again.

    The life of an Arsenal fan is about as exciting as watching paint dry, it's actually worse because we have to listen to some utterly nonsensical rubbish coming out from the club as well.

    Pound for pound probably the worst value club in the entire world, no money spent, no excitement, no entertainment, no unpredictability, no change, no hope, topped off by finger pointing and belittling.

    I can't believe there as still people that can bare this and buy into this rubbish to be honest, to think that there's allegedly people willing to snap up spare tickets is shocking to me, somehow this club has managed to brain wash a load of people we still play good football and are entertainers.

    I reckon we'd be good for people with insomnia, watching us might actually get them to sleep properly for the first time in years!
    Last edited by Özim; 15-11-2017 at 12:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    He won't come here, it's mind boggling if we are really chasing him when they don't want to sell him and I doubt he has any interest in coming here...oh wait a minute...this is Arsenal and this is how we try and do business

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    These new "targets" coincided with another piece that confirmed we've dropped the slow motion chase for Lemar because Barca have expressed a passing interest in the player.

    As always:

    IF no other club of note want the player;
    IF we aren't being used by an agent to influence real negotiations elsewhere;
    IF the player can be successfully lied to and convinced the club has an ounce of ambition;
    IF the player falls for the fake promises of other talent being brought in;
    IF the player meets Wenger's bizarre 1990's valuation criteria;
    IF no other player in the squad will be put out by the potential new arrival;
    IF we don't blow the whole deal by offering a pathetic bid and souring relations with the other club;
    IF we don't drag the whole process out with nickel and dime increments to the bid;
    IF we can get past the club suddenly claiming we have no money;
    IF we can get the deal concluded before the last few seconds of the transfer window.

    We still won't sign a decent player because Elneny can also play there as well you know. And Santi is coming back. And Jack is like a new signing.

    What's really happening this January window and in the summer is our best players are walking away after another round of glorious fuck-ups by the fraud who claims to be a top, top, top, manager.

    By now, after all this time, surely it is safe to assume the absolute worst outcome? The inevitable outcome. The same old outcome. We've been through the cycle twice in the last decade and only the stupidest, stupidest player will fall for round 3.

    Wenger said he wouldn't damage the club. But he has. Badly. It will take a long time for Arsenal to regain credibility, mainly because it's going to take a long time for this bastard to leave. And nothing good can happen until he's gone.

    Therefore, all these transfer stories are bullshit. It's either the media filling column inches or the club going through the usual motions.

    Our transfer policy (if you can call it that) is a joke, it's embarrassing, it's pushing us out of contention long term and it won't be changing any time soon.
    Don't fret, we have Gilles Grimandi as one of our chief talent scouts. He's managed to miss securing any of this new golden generation breaking through in France despite being based there. I mean how is this even possible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    He won't come here, it's mind boggling if we are really chasing him when they don't want to sell him and I doubt he has any interest in coming here...oh wait a minute...this is Arsenal and this is how we try and do business
    Yeah total nonsense, typical of our transfer business, we did the same with Baptista and Benzema, both players said they weren't interested but we carried on with our fruitless chase.

    We can't all be as intelligent as Wenger though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    Don't fret, we have Gilles Grimandi as one of our chief talent scouts. He's managed to miss securing any of this new golden generation breaking through in France despite being based there. I mean how is this even possible?
    I think these people get paid to sit around and do precious little, getting a job at Arsenal is great, pretty much free money, no questions asked, no targets and no repercussions for doing a terrible job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    I think these people get paid to sit around and do precious little, getting a job at Arsenal is great, pretty much free money, no questions asked, no targets and no repercussions for doing a terrible job.


    All Grimandi has to show for is Sanogo and that Jeff bloke.

    Great work, high fives all round for Grimandi, Wenger and the rest of the technical staff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    Transfer dealings (if you call them that) are a joke, there's no plan, no common sense, no urgency and no money (if you believe them). Some people still seem to go into transfer windows with hope, still dreaming of these pipedream signings and convincing themselves deals for top players are in the offing (like Mbappe last summer, what a joke that once, we had more chance of signing Jesus (the original one)).

    So yes we can look forward to losing our best players, signing some guy noone ha ever heard of for some ridiculous money because he's super super quality, then dragging out BS deals all summer only for them to fail at the last moment after we've spent all summer doing nothing at all but sitting on our backsides, then at the last moment we'll panic guy some totally unsuitable players and start the season poorly yet again.

    The life of an Arsenal fan is about as exciting as watching paint dry, it's actually worse because we have to listen to some utterly nonsensical rubbish coming out from the club as well.

    Pound for pound probably the worst value club in the entire world, no money spent, no excitement, no entertainment, no unpredictability, no change, no hope, topped off by finger pointing and belittling.

    I can't believe there as still people that can bare this and buy into this rubbish to be honest, to think that there's allegedly people willing to snap up spare tickets is shocking to me, somehow this club has managed to brain wash a load of people we still play good football and are entertainers.

    I reckon we'd be good for people with insomnia, watching us might actually get them to sleep properly for the first time in years!
    Zim

    Post of the year tbh

    Dw we have gazidis in charge of transfers now who wants less work by taking on more responsibility

    Herbert
    Last edited by Cripps; 15-11-2017 at 04:00 PM.

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