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    Who cares? For years we wanted to spend on players and bring in experience and it's finally happening. We bemoaned Wenger for acting like an accountant so why are we all suddenly interested in future value and replacements? We're rolling in money.

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    It seems our budget is pretty limited, if it wasn't it wouldn't matter, but as it is spending wisely is important so we get the most for our money and get the best team possible moving forward.

    If we need to replace players with no market value we have to find the cash from somewhere and it seems to me we don't have a whole lot of that (however odd that seems), whilst other top clubs are looking are the top class proven talents, we seem to be looking at cheaper alternatives. Would like us to build a team and then add some top players to this ocasionally to give us some star quality and matchwinners.

    My criteria was never to bring experience incidentally, it was to bring in quality in areas we need, ideally players who can stay in the team for years to come so that we can have them around for a while and build a team around them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    It seems our budget is pretty limited, if it wasn't it wouldn't matter, but as it is spending wisely is important so we get the most for our money and get the best team possible moving forward.

    If we need to replace players with no market value we have to find the cash from somewhere and it seems to me we don't have a whole lot of that (however odd that seems), whilst other top clubs are looking are the top class proven talents, we seem to be looking at cheaper alternatives. Would like us to build a team and then add some top players to this ocasionally to give us some star quality and matchwinners.

    My criteria was never to bring experience incidentally, it was to bring in quality in areas we need, ideally players who can stay in the team for years to come so that we can have them around for a while and build a team around them.
    We're essentially doing that though. In addition to more experienced players like Lichtsteiner and Sokratis, we have brought in Leno who is coming into his prime and the probables like Torreira and Soyuncu, and possibles like Pavon and Gomes are all young or enterring their prime. So to me it's a healthy mix of experience and players in their early 20's with the right talent to lead the team in future years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unai Tea View Post
    We're essentially doing that though. In addition to more experienced players like Lichtsteiner and Sokratis, we have brought in Leno who is coming into his prime and the probables like Torreira and Soyuncu, and possibles like Pavon and Gomes are all young or enterring their prime. So to me it's a healthy mix of experience and players in their early 20's with the right talent to lead the team in future years.
    So far we've signed 2 30 somethings, if we were after Banega that would have been 3, we're not though which is good IMO. Leno is a bit younger which is good, but for keepers it's not quite as important as they can play into their 30s.

    So far noone else confirmed, Torreira looks like he's coming which is great, the others are just links so not sure if they will happen or not. Regarding Pavon thought he looked awful in the World Cup incidentally, Gomez didn't really stand out for Portugal for me either to be honest, Carvalho was their most impressive midfielder IMO.

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    Wheechair is off to West Ham.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    So far we've signed 2 30 somethings, if we were after Banega that would have been 3, we're not though which is good IMO. Leno is a bit younger which is good, but for keepers it's not quite as important as they can play into their 30s.

    So far noone else confirmed, Torreira looks like he's coming which is great, the others are just links so not sure if they will happen or not. Regarding Pavon thought he looked awful in the World Cup incidentally, Gomez didn't really stand out for Portugal for me either to be honest, Carvalho was their most impressive midfielder IMO.
    But it's essentially a mix of experienced with players entering their prime. If we assume Torreira comes in, that's 50/50. If we brought in 4 over 30's and no younger players than it might be a concern. But clearly the recruitment has a wider scope in terms of profile. We'll land what we land but as far as I can see we're barking up the right trees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Wheechair is off to West Ham.
    Let's be honest, much like Wenger all supposed big clubs being after him was a pipe dream, not big club would touch him. He'll be at West Ham for a few years here he'll fade out into obsurity just like Walcott at Everton, he's been lucky to get so long at Arsenal, good times are over for him, so are the big pay days for being injured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Wheechair is off to West Ham.
    His England career is definitely over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    Let's be honest, much like Wenger all supposed big clubs being after him was a pipe dream, not big club would touch him. He'll be at West Ham for a few years here he'll fade out into obsurity just like Walcott at Everton, he's been lucky to get so long at Arsenal, good times are over for him, so are the big pay days for being injured.
    Agreed. Few English players ever want to develop, ever wanted to iron out the kinks in their game. Never want to abroad, never want competition for their place in the starting team. Think playing for England is a shoo-in once they have scored 3 goals. Wilshere was giving it large when he was only 19 years old. No big loss. West Ham will be his last Premier club before moving down the league.
    Banega for Ramsey would have been nice, hope he (Ramsey)refuses to sign.
    Make 2mrw better than 2day

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unai Tea View Post
    But it's essentially a mix of experienced with players entering their prime. If we assume Torreira comes in, that's 50/50. If we brought in 4 over 30's and no younger players than it might be a concern. But clearly the recruitment has a wider scope in terms of profile. We'll land what we land but as far as I can see we're barking up the right trees.
    Yes but if you believe reports we were after Banega, he was 30, so that would have been 75/25, clearly we're not too bothered by the age thing, hopefully we now sign some younger players.

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