Summer transfer joy and happiness

[Niall_Quinn]

NQ - Go back and look at the Spurs game. How comes Iwobi was able to muster up a good chance Lacazette within minutes? Not every move on the pitch has to be calculated chess pieces on a board. I've seen Wilshere pull off really good chances for players. Sanchez would do it all the time. He's an underrated playmaker. Heck, Alex Song was able to carve stuff out for RVP on a regular.

During that Spurs game there was an early chance to break on them but Ozil fucked up the pass. That's on Ozil to make that pass. It's on the manager to give him a slap for sloppy play. You have to stop buying excuses for this guy. Not every team is a well oiled, mistake free machine. I can't understand why Ozil can't force more mistakes for defenders if his playmaking ability.

That has almost nothing to do with what we're talking about. One moment from Iwobi and one moment from Ozil has close on zero significance to the overall argument.

Singling out Ozil is just a fetish for some. He's not doing the business and neither is any other player. He's exactly the same as all the rest. Ineffective. This is because of one man and one man alone. Certainly, give underperforming players a slap. But you won't catch Wenger doing that. Only time he'll do that is when they threaten to leave.

I explained to you why Ozil can't hook up with the striker. That's not how the team has been sent out to play. Remember how Ozil could do it at will when he first arrived? And Mkhitaryan hit the ground running. And Lacazette would shoot on sight when he first arrived? And Kolasinac was a beast? And Xhaka could tackle? And Bellerin would try to take on his opponent? And Chambers could defend? And Mustafi was fresh off a world cup win? And Iwobi was the next big thing? Pick a player. Any player.

And you think this problem is unique to Ozil? Refusing to run a witch hunt against him is not the same thing as refusing to criticise him. His penchant for sudden illnesses has been the focus of criticism for weeks. But then again, of course, that's Wenger's fault too when it all boils down to it. None of these things would be happening were it not for Wenger. You can sell Ozil or keep him, it won't make the slightest difference. Same goes for any player in the world, as we have seen with Lacazette and now Aubameyang. Alexis was the only one who seemed to be able to retain some degree of his former game, and one more season under Wenger and he would be shot too.

It's crazy to look at a club that's fucked from top to bottom and ask, Why isn't Ozil doing something about it?

[GP]

Correct. It's absolutely pointless looking at individual performances when the whole team is so dysfunctional.

[Power n Glory]

Ozil is a lazy mercenary what he does and doesn’t do in a game is largely dependent on whether he’s up for it

Iwobi is literally one of the only players in the team that either can or will dribble on the ball therefore he can make space that way that other players won’t

I think what we refer to is whether our players are self motivated or not. And more often than not that’s on them

Problem is some of our players can be self motivated but either no confidence or quality. Welbeck is prime example of this, through sheer effort he was our best player in my view last night (although that isn’t saying a lot).

Xhaka and Ramsey in midfield are never going to work even if you had Pep managing them, but on top of that Xhaka also is a lazy cunt

For a team to work under Wenger they have to be technically good and self motivated and players of that kind are probably now going to be in the 100million bracket

And that’s why Ancelotti would be a no go. He is like Wenger too relaxed. These players need a hard drilling disciplinarian

You sum it up. It's why I won't question the ability of Sanchez. Same goes for RVP, Cesc...as I mentioned before, even Alex Song had it in him to find our top striker even though we had just lost Cesc and Nasri. We went from being able to carve teams open as unit to relying on a few individuals to win us the points. The free flowing football was gone but we still had some players willing to use what they had to get the win despite a poor management and organisation.

[Power n Glory]

That has almost nothing to do with what we're talking about. One moment from Iwobi and one moment from Ozil has close on zero significance to the overall argument.

Singling out Ozil is just a fetish for some. He's not doing the business and neither is any other player. He's exactly the same as all the rest. Ineffective. This is because of one man and one man alone. Certainly, give underperforming players a slap. But you won't catch Wenger doing that. Only time he'll do that is when they threaten to leave.

I explained to you why Ozil can't hook up with the striker. That's not how the team has been sent out to play. Remember how Ozil could do it at will when he first arrived? And Mkhitaryan hit the ground running. And Lacazette would shoot on sight when he first arrived? And Kolasinac was a beast? And Xhaka could tackle? And Bellerin would try to take on his opponent? And Chambers could defend? And Mustafi was fresh off a world cup win? And Iwobi was the next big thing? Pick a player. Any player.

And you think this problem is unique to Ozil? Refusing to run a witch hunt against him is not the same thing as refusing to criticise him. His penchant for sudden illnesses has been the focus of criticism for weeks. But then again, of course, that's Wenger's fault too when it all boils down to it. None of these things would be happening were it not for Wenger. You can sell Ozil or keep him, it won't make the slightest difference. Same goes for any player in the world, as we have seen with Lacazette and now Aubameyang. Alexis was the only one who seemed to be able to retain some degree of his former game, and one more season under Wenger and he would be shot too.

It's crazy to look at a club that's fucked from top to bottom and ask, Why isn't Ozil doing something about it?

Singling out Ozil? Have you seen my posts on Xhaka or what I've just said about Aubmeyang?

The teams dysfunctional and people are saying we can't judge individuals but have no problem looking at the shit Mustafi pulled and rightly calling him out on it. Hold all players accountable for such bullshit and make no excuses for them just because the manager is crap.

[HCZ]

I think Keown might have a point, although we haven’t been great all season. 2018 has been especially terrible and makes you wonder if Wenger has lost the dressing room. I think in the past players were playing for Wenger....and able to amass runs of form that kept him in a job

I just don’t see the willingness to do that now.

[Power n Glory]

I think Keown might have a point, although we haven’t been great all season. 2018 has been especially terrible and makes you wonder if Wenger has lost the dressing room. I think in the past players were playing for Wenger....and able to amass runs of form that kept him in a job

I just don’t see the willingness to do that now.

I dunno. Didn't you say we played better last night despite losing? I didn't watch the game. There always seems to be speculation of him losing the team until they turn up for one game. It certainly is possible that he has lost them but some players have been taking the piss for a lot longer than this season.

[HCZ]

I dunno. Didn't you say we played better last night despite losing? I didn't watch the game. There always seems to be speculation of him losing the team until they turn up for one game. It certainly is possible that he has lost them but some players have been taking the piss for a lot longer than this season.

Better than Sunday, which isn’t saying a lot

[Cripps]

Iwobi is a good young player.

Under this manager every player gets destroyed.

So there's no point judging him.

[Cripps]

I think Keown might have a point, although we haven’t been great all season. 2018 has been especially terrible and makes you wonder if Wenger has lost the dressing room. I think in the past players were playing for Wenger....and able to amass runs of form that kept him in a job

I just don’t see the willingness to do that now.

Anyone else find it funny how the whole world has only just woken up and started to call for Wenger to go?

We've been saying it for years but it's only now there's mass calls from the media, journos and pundits.

[HCZ]

Anyone else find it funny how the whole world has only just woken up and started to call for Wenger to go?

We've been saying it for years but it's only now there's mass calls from the media, journos and pundits.

Not really, we always had shit patches under Wenger but we were the model of consistency in many respects

Couldn’t challenge for anything significant but always slotted nicely into the top four