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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Nope.

    See video above.
    That goes back to the 90s, I said in recent times, not even sure if that takes into account money recouped or not anyway.

    If you look in recent years Liverpool haven't spend huge amounts, they've sold players and brought in quality using that, yes they have spent but probably no more than us.

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    It does go back a while but we only briefly even appear in the list. We have started spending more recently but not compared with the top sides.
    Liverpool have hardly been frugal and Utd have spent a shitload and finished below us.

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    Apparently bidding £10m for an Argentine international CB who plays for Gremio in Brazil called Walter Kannemann. Obviously through Edu’s contacts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    If you look in recent years Liverpool haven't spend huge amounts, they've sold players and brought in quality using that, yes they have spent but probably no more than us.
    Livepool have spent £500m in the last 4 years.
    Maybe we'll have to disagree about what "huge amounts" is. They've recouped 367m, largely because of Coutinho, which has helped them do that.
    We have spent 334 in the same period, hardly pocket change but a lot less than Liverpool. We've recouped 157
    Actually our net spend is higher, but when you sell one player for over £100m it does help to buy.
    We have managed certain contract situations poorly though which has meant players leaving for free or nowhere near their market value because they were at or towards the end of their contract.

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    The net spend argument is utter bollocks as clubs calculate costs through amortisation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    Yeah not gonna lie, based on what we're hearing it doesn't sound good, cheap bargain basement type signings are unlikely to raise you to a higher level unless you get exceptionally lucy and unearth a gem, which these days is very rare (and are discovered by smaller clubs oddly).

    We've not had great success with buying cheap, so I don't trust the club to find the right players, fact is we need top quality now if we realistically want to raise our level, but it seems the club isn't interested in that, last summer we spent peanuts relatively speaking and that didn't work out too well, we've ended up 5th and had to watch rubbish players populating the team every game.

    We really need to get rid of these guys, but it seems we may be lumbered with them for quite a while, who's dubm idea was it to give Xhaka/Chambers a new contract last summer?

    On top of that we still have no replacement for Mislintat, that's a bit of a shambles too, like much of what this club does these days.

    Based on what I've heard I'm expecting another average summer followed by another mediocre season, where's the progress?

    What a depressing club we support!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Livepool have spent £500m in the last 4 years.
    Maybe we'll have to disagree about what "huge amounts" is. They've recouped 367m, largely because of Coutinho, which has helped them do that.
    We have spent 334 in the same period, hardly pocket change but a lot less than Liverpool. We've recouped 157
    Actually our net spend is higher, but when you sell one player for over £100m it does help to buy.
    We have managed certain contract situations poorly though which has meant players leaving for free or nowhere near their market value because they were at or towards the end of their contract.
    Yes but that's because they signed the right players, Coutinho was bought and was a success and his value rocketed, we on the other hand have spent on duds and thus have next to no resaleable assets and that's my point, poor management of the highest order, effectively our spend was higher because we wasted money and had no assets to raise money with, that's not the clubs fault it's the managers for wasting the resources we had.

    We've lost a lot of potential income through poor contracts, players walking away on frees, paying too high salaries to nobodies, but again that was all done to the previous manager and his poor handling, he has to take a lot of the blame for this, whereas if you look at Klopp he's largely got it right and not wasted Liverpools resources in the same way.

    Wenger as I said really messed up for th new manager, we know the owner isn't going to put money in, but if that's the case you have to use what you do have wisely, Wenger despite professing his love for the club and repeatedly saying he'll only sign super super quality did the exact opposite, he also massively overrated his players and had some odd belieft that everyone should get paid loads regardless of how well they had performed.

    We left it far too late to let him go IMO, those few extra years allowed him to create a team of overrated overpriced average players and allowed him to waste most of the resources we had at the same time, this was a big error of judgment, something we may end up paying for for years, I guess this is can happen when you keep a manager on too long, we're not stuck with players we can't get rid of, have a wage billl that's is way too high compared to the talent relatively speaking and have very little money to spend and it now seems if the reports are true we're going after a 28 year old CB from Argentina for 10 odd million because of it, a player who in a few years will again need to be replaced due to his age.
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    Allegri is leaving Juve.

    Sign him up.

    I bet United regret appointing OGS even more now.

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    Wonder where he will go, PSG maybe, they're the biggest club looking for a manager, Tuchel has been an utter failure, not sure where he got his repuation from, he's not really achieved anything prior to PSG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Allegri is leaving Juve.

    Sign him up.

    I bet United regret appointing OGS even more now.
    Probably Barca - Valverde hasn’t got a leg to stand after that embarrassment.

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