Summer transfer joy and happiness

[Penguin]

Slightly off topic, but still related. What is the latest on Ramsey's new contract? It seems we have offered him an increased wage but have not heard anything back yet.

Him and his agent seem to be playing some kind of game. We need to set him a deadline, he needs to either sign now or we should get rid ASAP.

He might just be waiting to see where he stands in Emery's plans. It wouldn't be great for him if he signs a new deal but doesn't get enough games, or if he gets played out of position.

But the cynic in me does think he's trying to squeeze more money out of the club.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

I object to spending £70m on a goalkeeper on principle. I believe we have the money for it, I just think we'd be inflating the market and flexing our muscle in the wrong area. It's a position where you can always find talent if you're prepared to scout around. Heck, if we had developed Sir Ches probably, we'd have had a top keeper with us already.

Blink's Mbappe comparison isn't quite the same. A striker with that sort of pace, size, technique, skill and intelligence doesn't come along often. Hence why the huge price tag is justified and why he reminds people of Ronaldo and Henry. It's like finding a unicorn.

Also, you don't need the very best keeper to stand a chance of winning titles. We went undefeated with Lehman in goal! He could be error prone at times but it didn't stop us from winning the league and he wasn't the best out there. Also, Hugo Lloris hasn't won a damn thing for Tottenham despite being a top class keeper. Why is that?

If we're going to be break any records, I'd rather we'd spend it on a CM or an attacking player.

I get your point of view on principle and normally I wouldn't advocate spending such sums on a single player myself. As you suggest, we can afford to, but not within the current strategy. If Wenger was willing to spend 100 mill on Mbappe (which I am increasingly hearing was true) then I see no reason why we can't take a hit now. People just blindly choose to believe it isn't possible because that is what they would have the club do themselves.

I think we've wasted vast sums of money of players we didn't need to buying players we weren't fully convinced about or buying cheap...so buying twice rather than just going for the right quality in the first place. I understand there is a need from a lot of people to suddenly see everything the current regime is doing as studiously wise and canny but I really question the Leno purchase which itself was no small fee considering we don't even expect him beyond doubt to be first team. I am certain that had we actually signed Oblak instead of Leno most people would have made their peace with it, be justifying it and praising it in equal measure!

I would love us to sign a world class midfielder but we're not going to sign one for 70 million.....it would cost probably in excess of 100 mil....see Milinkovic-savic. Besides, we've already done smart business on Torreira....so the key position their is addressed unless Ramsey gives us another headache by leave, which he may still do.

We should always be looking to improve wherever the position....we could win the league with an inferior keeper to Oblak, but the rest of the team needs so much work we would have even more work to do in the other positions. We've made our decision on the goalkeeper already so yeah I'm debating for the sake of debating (which some on here oddly seem to be failing to understand despite being enlisted on a chat forum).

[Power n Glory]

I get your point of view on principle and normally I wouldn't advocate spending such sums on a single player myself. As you suggest, we can afford to, but not within the current strategy. If Wenger was willing to spend 100 mill on Mbappe (which I am increasingly hearing was true) then I see no reason why we can't take a hit now. People just blindly choose to believe it isn't possible because that is what they would have the club do themselves.

I think we've wasted vast sums of money of players we didn't need to buying players we weren't fully convinced about or buying cheap...so buying twice rather than just going for the right quality in the first place. I understand there is a need from a lot of people to suddenly see everything the current regime is doing as studiously wise and canny but I really question the Leno purchase which itself was no small fee considering we don't even expect him beyond doubt to be first team. I am certain that had we actually signed Oblak instead of Leno most people would have made their peace with it, be justifying it and praising it in equal measure!

I would love us to sign a world class midfielder but we're not going to sign one for 70 million.....it would cost probably in excess of 100 mil....see Milinkovic-savic. Besides, we've already done smart business on Torreira....so the key position their is addressed unless Ramsey gives us another headache by leave, which he may still do.

We should always be looking to improve wherever the position....we could win the league with an inferior keeper to Oblak, but the rest of the team needs so much work we would have even more work to do in the other positions. We've made our decision on the goalkeeper already so yeah I'm debating for the sake of debating (which some on here oddly seem to be failing to understand despite being enlisted on a chat forum).

Yes, if Ramsey decides to go, we'll need a CM. If Xhaka can't improve his game, we'll need a CM. If Ozil can't adjust to playing on the wing, we'll need a replacement for him as well. Aubameyang and Mkhitaryan are close to hitting 30 as well. If it cost £100m for a superstar player, it is what it is. Supply and demand. All the more reason why I'm against spending close to that amount on a position that isn't high demand / short supply. Nome of our rivals have spent anything close to that amount on a goalkeeper, even the super clubs. Where is the evidence that £70m is the new standard for a goalkeeper?

[I am invisible]

Aye, he has us by the balls if he really wants to stay. I also get the feeling that whilst he is rated, a lot of clubs he would want to leave us for would rather get him on a freebie.

No idea! It’s all gone very quiet.

I really hope he stays - his engine will be a real asset if we’re going for an intense, high press, and his ability to effectively double-up as either a third midfielder or a second striker will certainly be useful for those overloads that everyone keeps going on about.

Having said that, I also hope we have a deadline and a backup plan and in mind, if it comes to it.

One positive is that I haven’t heard shit from the player or his agent, agitating for a move away, and there’s been no leaked stories of interest or cryptic farewell tweets.

[selassie]

Unai has told the Board not sell him from what I heard. Will he interesting to see how he is used and whether he can live up to the expectations set by Unai.

I like Ramsey, I think he has a level or two still in him, I also think that under a structured team, which I assume Emery is building...he will thrive.

He is a perfect player for the pressing game too, the guy can run all day long.

[Power n Glory]

I like Ramsey, I think he has a level or two still in him, I also think that under a structured team, which I assume Emery is building...he will thrive.

He is a perfect player for the pressing game too, the guy can run all day long.

I worry about his fitness. I don't know if he'll be able to stay injury free.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Yes, if Ramsey decides to go, we'll need a CM. If Xhaka can't improve his game, we'll need a CM. If Ozil can't adjust to playing on the wing, we'll need a replacement for him as well. Aubameyang and Mkhitaryan are close to hitting 30 as well. If it cost £100m for a superstar player, it is what it is. Supply and demand. All the more reason why I'm against spending close to that amount on a position that isn't high demand / short supply. Nome of our rivals have spent anything close to that amount on a goalkeeper, even the super clubs. Where is the evidence that £70m is the new standard for a goalkeeper?

It isn't anything like a new standard. I just think given the profile of the player he is worth it....and from a purely business asset point of view (not my personal inclination....just playing devil's advocate) it is certainly a reasonable investment.

Like I said, I get why others don't but I really believe he is. Like I also said, this is partly motivated by my being plagued with doubts about how good Leno is.... but when he finally plays for us, if he proves to be a worldie, I will rightfully congratulate the current regime on an excellent choice. It is about time we had a world class goalkeeper just as I thought after we finally signed Aubameyang it is about bloody time we had a world class forward.

[Özim]

I object to spending £70m on a goalkeeper on principle. I believe we have the money for it, I just think we'd be inflating the market and flexing our muscle in the wrong area. It's a position where you can always find talent if you're prepared to scout around. Heck, if we had developed Sir Ches probably, we'd have had a top keeper with us already.

Blink's Mbappe comparison isn't quite the same. A striker with that sort of pace, size, technique, skill and intelligence doesn't come along often. Hence why the huge price tag is justified and why he reminds people of Ronaldo and Henry. It's like finding a unicorn.

Also, you don't need the very best keeper to stand a chance of winning titles. We went undefeated with Lehman in goal! He could be error prone at times but it didn't stop us from winning the league and he wasn't the best out there. Also, Hugo Lloris hasn't won a damn thing for Tottenham despite being a top class keeper. Why is that?

If we're going to be break any records, I'd rather we'd spend it on a CM or an attacking player.

I don't see a problem personally, though I agree about inflating the market, you say we can find talent but in 22 years we haven't found once top class keeper, if it was that easy most top clubs would find one and not bother buying one in. Chesney isn't top class IMO, good keeper and all that but not top class.

The reality is finding any top class player is hard, regardless of position, Spurs found Kane (we had him in fact but didn't rate him oddly) and didn't need to spend megabucks, Liverpool have found several top strikers at decent money as well.

Maybe not, but every club that has won the titlein England in recent times has had a top keeper I think, but it can make the difference between winning it and not winning it, in big games where chances are few and far between a keeper can be the difference between winning and losing

[GP]

Gazidis is going to AC Milan.

Weird.

[Marc Overmars]

That would be utterly bizarre.

Milan might want him but I really doubt he’s going to leave during the most important period of his time with us.