Ostersunds match reaction

[AFC Leveller]

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The player who missed the pel last night...

[Cripps]

There are people on here who do rather seem to wallow in our failures. Always find it odd behaviour.

[Cripps]

Bellerin hasn't even been at the club as long as most of the fans who have suffered through the Mad King's last decade. All the fans can do is put up with it. Bellerin could actually do something about it. Instead, he can't be bothered to learn how to cross a ball. So maybe he should get on and do that? Anything he has to say until he gets his own shit sorted out should be treated with the contempt it deserves.

As for the win last night - fuck that. Who cares? If you get down in Wenger's shit and grime you might be able to pull some sort of victory out of Wenger's arsehole. But look at it from even a moderate distance and you can see the following:

- A big club like Arsenal pubbing it out with Swedish nobodies in a nobody cup.

- The spuds and Liverpool, teams we were comfortably superior to, playing in the tournament that was meant to be the be all, end all and has led our club to chasing 4th instead of 1st. A mentality that has destroyed us. We can't even get in that cup any more.

- Arsene Wenger and his small band of profit hungry execs and rather limit and non-committal players getting richer and richer and the club bank balance climbing higher and higher.

So not a pretty picture at all and so far from a cause for celebration it's easily a plane trip back to reality.

Context is everything and only in its absence could you possibly conceive last night's result as being in any way significant.

In the right context - what does any reasonable person expect an operation like AFTV, or any fan group related to Arsenal, to be focused on? The odd win and the odd decent performance? We get what, maybe 3 decent performances a season these days?

I wonder why all the doom and gloom tops the charts then? What a shocking revelation, in light of the shocking reality of the shit state of this club and the incompetent, greedy bastards running it. We should be happy about that?

No. Sorry. What would it say about our fan base if the majority of fans were HAPPY with the shit going on?

People need to be very careful here. The Pro-Wenger, anti-Arsenal lot, with all their holier-than-thou crap about supporting the team when our own fucking owners, execs and the manager won't support the fucking team, are going to ride any sort of success we have in the Tin Pot Cups to try to make a case for their anti-hero Wenger.

Don't fall for it. The only positive thing a fan can do is stay right on Wenger's arse and keep putting the pressure on. Don't let up for a second or this cunt will find a way to slip back in, carried their by the toads and quislings that have fawned over him and kept him at the helm 10 years beyond his dispose of date.

Don't buy into this shit and don't let them question your loyalty to the club or blame you for their fuck ups and their slavish devotion to a prick who never liked them, doesn't respect them and treats them like shit on his shoe. If that lot can't muster any dignity or self respect then why should you pay any heed to a word they have to say.

Ignore them and get on with the positive and necessary task of getting Wenger out.

Tl;dr. But based on previous debates I agree with you and disagree with Wetters.

[Globalgunner]

There is no getting behind this team while Wenger is still in charge. Not for me anyway. Why? because we have seen it all before. for over a dozen years. They are the lover who has cheated 6 times before and still has the audacity to send Valentine cards expecting to be forgiven. The office colleague that is never on time and tells you to wait out in the snow that he will arrive with the door keys on the hour. How do you celebrate a win at home to Everton with glee when you know that of 3 away matches you will be lucky to get a draw in 1. How can you get behind a team that was 7 points ahead of the Spuds in October and is now 7 points behind them. A swing of 14 points!!! FFS!. A team of bottlers who turn round and blame the fans for not giving them sufficient backbone. We get tanked by the Spuds and Wenger starts waxing lyrical about superman Harry Kane.

Wenger has no shame. So we beat a team of butchers and carpenters. Have we yet heard the famous " Turned a corner" line yet?. We hear it about 1 a month then it is followed by 2 or 3 pathetic results. What is the point? a charge to 4th place? is that even possible now. Can we win the league. Yes if it is still mathematically possible we are told time after time. I take no joy from a klutzy win over Everton when I know that Nottingham Forest just beat us in the FA cup. A club bottom of the championship.

Where are we going? backwards obviously.

[Power n Glory]

No one wants to watch videos of fans praising players or tactics. You get enough of that from pundits on TV.

AFTV went viral because you got to hear real, candid opinions from lifelong, match going fans. My guess is also that their main demographic is the younger generation who see these guys almost like celebrities.

True. If there was an audience for positive praise and in depth talk of tactics on AFTV, the audience numbers would reflect that. I can't blame Robbie for what viewers flock to. He posts videos for every game. Win, lose or draw. It's not as if he only pops up after a loss and that's why Bellerin is wrong and out of order. If the team actually won and played better maybe things would be different on there. Even with the so called celebrities, they're not always negative and the fact that they have that perception on here just proves that most of us only tune in after a lose too.

[HCZ]

True. If there was an audience for positive praise and in depth talk of tactics on AFTV, the audience numbers would reflect that. I can't blame Robbie for what viewers flock to. He posts videos for every game. Win, lose or draw. It's not as if he only pops up after a loss and that's why Bellerin is wrong and out of order. If the team actually won and played better maybe things would be different on there. Even with the so called celebrities, they're not always negative and the fact that they have that perception on here just proves that most of us only tune in after a lose too.

It makes no sense, it’s like a company saying it’s fed up of all the negative feedback it gets from its complaints line.

Don’t churn out an inferior product and you won’t have to deal with negativity

And for fans that agree with Bellerin, what the hell is wrong with you. The fact that your less embarrassed by the 10-2 defeat to Bayern than fans swearing their heads off about it says more about you.

And are people like Claude and DT getting celebrity out of it? Well sod it might as well get something out of it.

Although the only thing Claude seems to get out of it is a shortcut to an early grave

[Power n Glory]

It really is bullshit and makes no sense. The players can change the narrative of the story. Fans who criticise AFTV can change the consensus on that platform too. Tune in when we win or go up on AFTV and speak on all the positives. It's an open forum.

[Marc Overmars]

People get way too butt hurt over negativity.

[Cripps]

AFTV started off with good intentions. It's turned into a comedy show and we hardly need more comedy at this banter club.

It's a cancer to the club.

[Globalgunner]

AFTV started off with good intentions. It's turned into a comedy show and we hardly need more comedy at this banter club.

It's a cancer to the club.

We already have a terminal disease called Wenger at the club. What harm can a little cancer do. The patient will be dead in about 3 years if this shit is allowed to continue.