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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Our record probably wouldn't be quite as bad if Wenger wasn't throwing PL games so he can keep his last best hope to save his own useless arse alive - his team wrapped up safe and cosy to somehow, by whatever means, find a way (despite him) to beat Atleti.
    We have no chance of beating Atletico

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    "...so I guess time will tell."

    How much time? He's has over a decade. How much more time will it take to tell?

    What other manager has had so much time?

    And here we are, no defence, no midfield, 100 mill quid of disconnected strikers up top. Losing to Newcastle to keep our perfect record of ZERO points away from home in 2018 intact. Literally the worst away club in British football. The worst!

    How much more time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chippy View Post
    We have no chance of beating Atletico
    Don't ever underestimate the ability of this clown to somehow luck his way into a new contract.

    Wouldn't be surprised if he's shipping the lasagne as we speak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Then.
    Why.
    Is.
    Our.
    Home.
    Form.
    So.
    Good?

    Do we have a different manager for home games?
    Can we not have one fucking thread where people can sensibly debate? Yes yes, Wenger Out. I think we've all established that.
    But I can't think of another where the discrepancy between home and away form has been quite so marked.
    There was a year where it was the opposite. Our home form was bad but our away form was good. As people keep trying to tell you, it comes back to the manager. Everytime. There is no debate to be had about it. We can improve in one area and then fall short in a major way in another. It's like watching a watching a ridiculous Frank Spencer comedy routine where he somehow, someway ends up in a ridiculous situation.

    We can try to improve on our away form next season but something else in another area will fall apart. There is no other way to solve this problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Now we're saying winning the second rate (literally a competition for losers) cup is redemption.
    Who is saying that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur View Post
    There was a year where it was the opposite. Our home form was bad but our away form was good. As people keep trying to tell you, it comes back to the manager. Everytime. There is no debate to be had about it. We can improve in one area and then fall short in a major way in another. It's like watching a watching a ridiculous Frank Spencer comedy routine where he somehow, someway ends up in a ridiculous situation.

    We can try to improve on our away form next season but something else in another area will fall apart. There is no other way to solve this problem.
    And he always finds a way to compartmentalise, and then rationalise the failures (in his own head anyway). He's the ultimate spin doctor. Fortunately most fans see through the bullshit now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Who is saying that?
    The collective "they" - there's a value being placed on this trophy by many fans and they are very naive if they think Wenger and the board aren't going to cash that value in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    The collective "they" - there's a value being placed on this trophy by many fans and they are very naive if they think Wenger and the board aren't going to cash that value in.
    Of course there's value in it.
    There's value in any trophy.
    It wouldn't change my view on whether Wenger should stay, maybe it would sway some fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    What's up with that?

    Our home form is 3rd best, behind City, obvs, and Utd.

    Our away form is mid-table at best.

    Any thoughts as to why we are such a car crash away from home this season? The discrepancy really is massive.
    It has been covered on this thread already but our team lacks so many required fundamental aspects that going away and expecting to win anywhere in PL has now become fruitless IMO.

    NQ summed it up earlier, we have no Defence, No Midfield and a disjointed Attack.

    This team lacks a personality and quite clearly isn't setup or organised in any logical sense.

    We all know what the problem is...it doesn't even need to be repeated again and again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Of course there's value in it.
    There's value in any trophy.
    It wouldn't change my view on whether Wenger should stay, maybe it would sway some fans.
    Bragging rights for a day and cash for the board. That's all we get.

    I'd easily sacrifice the EL if it meant getting a serious title challenge next season. Not even winning the PL - just challenging. That's enough and far, far more valuable than any second rate cup for losers.

    But even that cup would be useful as a stepping stone. But it won't be. It'll be a watering hole in Wenger's desert of mediocrity. It'll keep us going so we can trudge through another year of desolation.

    Pointless. A fun day out. That's the maximum value if we intend to let Wenger drag us off into the shit the day after.

    Now if we won it and he resigned the next day. That's joy. The Losers Cup win would be fun. The joy would come from that resignation and the whole new world of possibilities it opened up.

    He won't resign though. No chance. And 99% chance we won't win it anyway. More chance of us finishing up 7th to round out another dismal Wenger season with fuck all.
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