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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    For there to be under-performance, there first has to be some kind of good performance to begin with no? I'd like to know on what evidence are we under-performing? It can't be the league because we've finished 5th and 6th now, with this season in particular breaking all sorts of records for being shit. We choked in the League Cup final (why couldn't we raise it again like we did for Chelsea last year?), we froze when presented with a huge opportunity to reach the EL final and we've been soundly beaten by all of the teams above us bar Chelsea who we drew twice with.

    Sure we have some decent players who would benefit from a better coach but we haven't been anywhere near the title for a long time and the league performance has got progressively worse. The cup win last year was a minor miracle but if anything that probably suggests we over-performed on the day because everything either side of that final has been atrocious. That was a huge anomaly of a victory.

    We probably should be doing better but I think the new manager has a big task on because I don't think this squad has shown enough to suggest it can do better. There are a lot of run of the mill players in this squad who should count themselves lucky to be playing for a club as big as Arsenal.
    The new manager has to first train the players to unlearn everything Wenger "taught" them. Some players will survive the process, others won't. But just a few simple lessons might transform the team, like kicking the ball up the other end of the pitch when defending. Or the striker running into the box when we are attacking down the flanks. The stuff all normal teams do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    For there to be under-performance, there first has to be some kind of good performance to begin with no? I'd like to know on what evidence are we under-performing?
    Our home form, basically. It's good enough to challenge, you don't get a home record like that unless you're any good.
    I don't think I've ever known a season where the difference between home and away form is this marked. Sort out the away form - and we've never had an away season quite this bad before so we're perfectly capable of doing that - and we should be in and around the top 4.

    I don't think we'll be challenging for the title next year but for a top 4 spot, definitely.
    We only failed to finish in the top 4 last year by a couple of points, this year has been a car crash but I believe they're capable of better.

    The whole premise of #WengerOut is that with this squad we should be doing much better than we are.

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    At home we've beaten:

    Leicester
    Bournemouth
    WBA
    Brighton
    Swansea
    Spuds (only opponent of note)
    Huddersfield
    Newcastle
    Crystal Palace
    Everton
    Watford
    Stoke
    Southampton
    West Ham
    Burnley

    All bar one of the key names are missing and many of these teams beat us when we visited their patch.

    The record this season is appalling.
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    You understand that everyone plays the same teams, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    You understand that everyone plays the same teams, right?
    Really?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    You understand that everyone plays the same teams, right?
    That list of results demonstrates pretty clearly how we are doing against our new rivals compared to our old rivals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall Quinn View Post
    That list of results demonstrates pretty clearly how we are doing against our new rivals compared to our old rivals.
    Whatever. If we had a similar set of results away from home we'd be in the top 4. You get the same number of points for beating any of the sides.
    IF you're pushing for the title then these 6 pointers become important, right now let's focus on getting back in the top 4, our home form is more than good enough to, our away form is pretty much relegation form.
    Sort out that discrepancy and we'll start competing again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Whatever. If we had a similar set of results away from home we'd be in the top 4. You get the same number of points for beating any of the sides.
    IF you're pushing for the title then these 6 pointers become important, right now let's focus on getting back in the top 4, our home form is more than good enough to, our away form is pretty much relegation form.
    Sort out that discrepancy and we'll start competing again.
    If we won more games than City we probably would be top. We just need to sort out that discrepancy
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    I do agree that this squad is capable of more and we should be higher up the table.

    However, we also need to change 2-4 players to help maintain a consistent run and hopefully, a new manager will bring a huge change in mentality, tactics and work ethic.

    Letters is right to some extent as most of the players we have, are better than this seasons results would have us all believing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall Quinn View Post
    If we won more games than City we probably would be top. We just need to sort out that discrepancy
    Not only that, if we focused more on winning than losing, we'd be higher in the table.
    It's better to burn out, than to fade away.

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