Champions League Draw, 17:00 BST.

[Marc Overmars]

Firmino is very underrated. Top player.

[Özim]

Their problem is bigger than the manager. How many have tried and failed with all that money?

I think they need a manager with a system and a bit if discipline, so far all of those they've tried haven't been up to the job and Tuchel looks like one of the worse choices based on tonight, PSG were poor for much of the match.

[Globalgunner]

Zidane will probably end up there if ManU don't pull the plug on Mourinho by Xmas. Job is perfect for him.

[Özim]

Zidane will probably end up there if ManU don't pull the plug on Mourinho by Xmas. Job is perfect for him.

Yeah Zidane would be perfect, knows how to get the best out of players, will have instant respect and proven.

Whoever gets Zidane will be very lucky indeed.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Wednesday, 19th September

Group E
Ajax v AEK Athens, 17:55
Benfica v Bayern Munich, 20:00

Group F
Shakhtar Donetsk v Hoffenheim, 17:55
Man City v Lyon, 20:00

Group G
Real Madrid v Roma, 20:00
Viktoria Plzen v CSKA Moscow, 20:00

Group H
Valencia v Juventus, 20:00
Young Boys v Man Utd, 20:00

[Globalgunner]

Firmino is very underrated. Top player.

To think that Brazil stated every game at the WC with that pony Jesus. Sometimes so called top coaches do the dumbest things. He also never gave Douglas Costa a sniff until the last half of the game when they were already out. He changed the game when he came on too

[Özim]

Really tame performance by PSG, probably one of their worst in recent yes, barely ever looked like socring which with a team like them is pretty poor, I just think it doesn't bode well for them, Tuchel seems to have acquired a reputation based on nothing, he was 2nd rate at Dortmund (where Liverpool already embarrassed him) and yet for some reason top clubs were after him.

Liverpool looking good though and the squad depth is very good, got to respect Klopp he did amazing things at Dortmund and now he's turning Liverpool into a force as well, good time to be a Liverpool fan!

[Özim]

To think that Brazil stated every game at the WC with that pony Jesus. Sometimes so called top coaches do the dumbest things. He also never gave Douglas Costa a sniff until the last half of the game when they were already out. He changed the game when he came on too

Douglas Costa is top notch, we could have done worse than to sign him, in the end Juve did for 40 million, he's a very proactive/high energy player that makes things happen and changes games.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Douglas Costa literally spat in someone's mouth. He can fuck off.

Shakhtar 0-1 Hoffenheim.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Shakhtar 1-2 Hoffenheim.Fernando, Grillitsch and Nordtveit with the goals.

Ajax 1-0 AEK Athens, Tagliafico.