Match Autopsy v Liverpool (away).

[21_GOONER_SALUTE]

What has 1992 got to do with 2018? if you don’t want a back and forth (neither do I about meaningless net spending etc), then at least post up something worthwhile to make a point.

Do you really need to be spoon fed on everything?

You said:

No board in the world has the fans or clubs best interest at heart. They are businesses.

That was nonsense and brings back the silly arguments we use to have on this board ( 04- 12) where we would have a back and forth on whether spending on the team or club creates value for shareholders. I'm not going to google deloitte for you but you'll notice that minnows like Citeh, Chelsea and the Spuds forced themselves into the top 10 richest clubs in the world by MARKET VALUE by doing just that.

Liverpool haven’t got to where they are through spending money like City or Chelsea. It was clever selling and reinvestment.

So please, after the figures I've just shown you, kindly explain how they have "sold/re-invested" more cleverly than everyone else? Or how have they not been spending money like City or Chelsea? They are the 3rd highest spenders in the period I've shown you and have exactly how many Titles to boast about in that 26 year period?

Or is your argument that they have been clever and cautious in reinvesting money made from transfers recently- lets see.

In 17/18, after and even before the Coutinho transfer, Liverpool were spending big on players. At the end of the season they received from the sale of Coutinho and all other players £161m after having spent £151m (remember Coutinho transfer was in Jan this year). Net profit 10m.

However, this season they made £15m on transfers but "cautious" Pool still spent £160m on new players. Net Loss 145 million. So what exactly is unChelselike or unCitehlike about this level of spending?

They've spent more than anyone this season and are on course to win the title. Guess who spent the most last season? Citeh did by a mile (£285m) and won the league. Man U spent £185m (the 2nd highest amount) and came 2nd.

Now my argument is not that spending will guarantee you the Title, unless Leicester would have never won it the year they did. What I am saying though is without a doubt it helps a lot and specifically in this argument it hurts no one, shareholders or fans , and thats because big teams still gain value even without major trophies but not without the entertainment that world class players provide- as this is all showbiz or do we really need Vince Mcmahon to explain this to us.

[selassie]

We are not changing facts brother, our defence is like a sieve.

Our Defence is a complete mess, no better than last season, arguably worse. We literally cannot keep a clean sheet home or away.

TBH, given the definite outs we have and the uncertainty surrounding the likes of Ozil, Kos etc, we have a massive job to do rebuilding this squad. Sven, Raul & Emery are really going to need to earn their corn to rebuild the squad, lots of work to do.

[Marc Overmars]

A predictable trouncing. Anyone who thought we’d offer up some resistance were deluding themselves.

We cannot defend, plain and simple. Stood absolutely no chance against a team who are flying and likely to win the league.

It’s embarrasing how much work Emery has to do.

[21_GOONER_SALUTE]

And just to buttress the point on how if the Fan's expectations are met it is almost always a good thing for the shareholders- I just remembered Mourinho's sacking and what happened the next day to Man U's share price.

https://talksport.com/football/46258...s-share-price/

To summarize for those who can't be bothered to read- before Jose got the sack, some "gurus" complained that Man U could not afford to sack him as they'd have to pay £24m as his severance- so to them it wasn't the financially smart thing to do as how would Man U make this money back? Where would they find it?

Oh well, the Markets responded the very next day (without Solskjaer kicking a ball) as the Glazers became richer by a £120 million as investors loved the sacking.

This game is about entertainment, and anything that is pissing off the fans and causing empty stadiums will affect the owners. Simple.

[SMatthews]

Or is your argument that they have been clever and cautious in reinvesting money made from transfers recently- lets see.

There you go. Not sure what all that other nonsense was about. You’re stuck in this outdated net spend argument. Player amortisation is the reality.

[Ralpheroo72]

Saw this coming a mile off, our defence and midfield are woeful.

[KSE Comedy Club]

The result was obvious, didn’t expect anything less.

The manner of deafest however, is where the problem lies. A pathetic embarrassment of professional football.

And Emery, for all his tactical nous, fucked up with the initial team selection and subs last night. Horrifically in fact.

[Gooner23]

A predictable trouncing. Anyone who thought we’d offer up some resistance were deluding themselves.

We cannot defend, plain and simple. Stood absolutely no chance against a team who are flying and likely to win the league.

It’s embarrasing how much work Emery has to do.

Emery needs better players but also has to take some measure of responsibility for the ease at which our defence is bypassed.

[Marc Overmars]

He definitely needs more of his own players to effectively implement whatever system it is he wants, but even with what we’ve got we shouldn’t be this bad.

I don’t want to come down like a ton of bricks on him because he’s at the start of the rebuilding process, but some of what we’re seeing is unnacceptable by any standards.

We saw under Wenger how scarring these kind of defeats can be. He has to get a grip on things at the back before it gets any worse.

[selassie]

RIP Get a grip of yourself man. No board in the world has the fans or clubs best interest at heart. They are businesses.

Liverpool haven’t got to where they are through spending money like City or Chelsea. It was clever selling and reinvestment. Utd have spent hundreds of millions and haven’t got close to winning the league in years. How have Tottenham improved? Chelsea don’t even spend like they used to.

Defence and midfield need an overhaul. Time to get smart with purchases and reselling, along with good management.

Totally agree.