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    Quote Originally Posted by The Unaibomber View Post
    Indeed. Emery took the deal off the table. Then he had to rely on Ramsey. Aaron showed nothing but class and professionalism throughout that period right up to the day he left.

    Now look at us.

    Ughh
    I think you're forgetting about the sustainability model we pride ourselves in. Seriously, they boast about it. It's almost as if balancing the books is the new Top 4 Trophy. Arsenal has more than enough to punch out of this if everyone is committed. But we're pinning it all on a magical manager to transform the complacency and laziness and sheer head-in-the-sand idiocy of at least a decade.

    Years back, they decided Football Fair Play was going to be a thing and they spotted a way to profit from that whilst propping up the illusion of competitiveness (or, shall we say, the whole point of the sport). Many of the fans were conned, and so Wenger lingered and rotted us out, year after year. We're halfway down the plunge now with gravity working against us. And the main question still seems to be, who can we bring in to defeat gravity. Bigger (and saner) questions than that need asking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    Ljungberg is having a shocker to be honest, just a continuation of what we saw under Emery, can't believe he's still playing Xhaka.

    We need a new manager now, I'd take Allegri or Simeone as well, proper disciplinarians.
    If Simeone is available now then yes we should take him. But honestly...this season is over anyway regardless of who comes in so I'd much rather wait until the end of the season.

    We won't go down and we won't be finishing top 4 or winning FA Cup or Europa irrespective of who is in charge, the team has too many issues IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    I think you're forgetting about the sustainability model we pride ourselves in. Seriously, they boast about it. It's almost as if balancing the books is the new Top 4 Trophy. Arsenal has more than enough to punch out of this if everyone is committed. But we're pinning it all on a magical manager to transform the complacency and laziness and sheer head-in-the-sand idiocy of at least a decade.

    Years back, they decided Football Fair Play was going to be a thing and they spotted a way to profit from that whilst propping up the illusion of competitiveness (or, shall we say, the whole point of the sport). Many of the fans were conned, and so Wenger lingered and rotted us out, year after year. We're halfway down the plunge now with gravity working against us. And the main question still seems to be, who can we bring in to defeat gravity. Bigger (and saner) questions than that need asking.
    We spent a ton of money this summer, it's looking like it was in the wrong areas...but we can't play the pauper anymore, Emery spent a fortune over the past 2 summer windows. Money is no longer the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Unaibomber View Post
    If we end up in a relegation fight, which is looking increasingly likely, who feels confident this team is equipped to deal with it?
    No. Too many average players with no spirit. We really are in the shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    We spent a ton of money this summer, it's looking like it was in the wrong areas...but we can't play the pauper anymore, Emery spent a fortune over the past 2 summer windows. Money is no longer the issue.
    We also cleared a lot of money off the books, so the net spend wasn't as impressive as you might imagine. But yes, we spent. I think our spending has been more out of desperation though, more designed to replace what's leaving rather than build on what we have. Alexis and Ramsey wanting out dictated a lot of what we did in the transfer windows. It's likely the main reason why, unbelievably, we haven't sunk cash into a quality central defender. That's where the money should have gone. Followed up by some quality in the middle. But we haven't had a sensible strategy for contracts and transfers in a long time. Ever since Wenger virtually helped Cesc out the door to follow his dreams and his DNA, we haven't had the first clue. Every priority fucked up in every way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    Torreira should be playing in front of the defence, he's very good at that, Guendouzi has legs at least, can also play Luiz there as he's better in midfield, Chamber is better there as well, take your pick, Xhaka is just the favourite, he should be nowhere near the team on talent or due to his behaviour, he almost cost us a 3rd goal when he got caught o the ball.

    Martinelli or Pepe should have started as well as should Tierney over Kolasinac.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chippy View Post
    No. Too many average players with no spirit. We really are in the shit.
    I agree, no-one's 'too good to go down' and i think all the other teams have the potential to get results, Newcastle have turned their season around and the promoted teams are mostly doing well.

    If we can't even manage a draw at home against Brighton we are so fucked - we need to throw money at a really experienced manager now, whatever it takes, this is not time for a freddie or arteta

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    Can’t believe how much of an utter shambles we are. Forget the coach, most of these players are not fit to wear the shirt.

    If we cannot get it together over Christmas, make no mistake about it we will find ourselves looking at the relegation zone. There isn’t a single team in the league we can be confident of beating. What a fucking shit show, someone remind me, why did we move to the Emirates again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Can’t believe how much of an utter shambles we are. Forget the coach, most of these players are not fit to wear the shirt.

    If we cannot get it together over Christmas, make no mistake about it we will find ourselves looking at the relegation zone. There isn’t a single team in the league we can be confident of beating. What a fucking shit show, someone remind me, why did we move to the Emirates again?
    The move has to be seen as a failure, we have gone backwards beyond recognition. We became attractive to scum like Kroenke, and we are now seeing the consequences of this.

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    This team is completely broken but at least we wont have to play in the Europa League next season

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