The rot started with Wenger but you have to ask what on earth Emery has been doing on the training ground with these players the last season and a half. And until recently Raul wanted to extend his deal, what a disgrace. The next managerial appointment needs to be smart as the team needs a complete re-set. I just have no faith in the higher powers making the right decision though.
Apparently Brighton, Watford and Southampton managed 82 shots combined against us. While we managed only 32 shots...Originally Posted by Gooner23
This team is completely broken but at least we wont have to play in the Europa League next season
Broken is putting it lightly. There is something fundamentally wrong in every facet of this team, right from the way we defend, control the midfield and construct attacks. It is a complete mess, the players don't know what they're supposed to be doing and it's looking like most of them don't have the fight in them to claw us back up the table.
I'm actually stunned at how bad this is getting. It was anger before but now I'm genuinely alarmed.
Honestly think we're the worst team in the league on form at the moment, all the bottom sides are outplaying us and going away unlucky they haven't won.
It's quite amusing to see the people who for years were confidently proclaiming that Wenger was so inept that any manager would come in and do better now desperately flailing around trying to pretend that of course what they really meant is that Wenger left us in a state such that anyone coming in would have a difficult task to turn things around.
The fact is Wenger didn't leave us as a mid-table team or worse. His last season was the only one in which we were nowhere near the top 4 and last year with a bit of a new manager bounce we got 9 more points than the previous year and were once again very close to the top 4. Had it not been for a pathetic collapse at the end we'd have sailed into the top 4 last year. Wenger left us in a state perfectly capable of challenging for top 4 - the proof of that is how close we went last year, we really should have finished in the top 4.
Emery had 3 transfer windows to try and improve things, there was some success last season but this year has been a complete mess. Freddie is not a football manager but he's an Arsenal man and thus starts with a lot of good will from the fans. I honestly expected a bit of a new manager bounce but it hasn't happened and that good will has evaporated in the space of 2 games. We aren't going down and I don't think we're going to get sucked into that mess but right now we are going to bumble around in mid-table which with our resources and the prices they're charging to watch isn't anywhere near good enough.
We need to get a proper manager in now. Mourinho took over a good squad which was under-performing and has immediately made an impact. Get the right person in now and they will with us too.
Only silver lining from last night is I was out and so didn't have to use my Amazon Prime membership to waste 2 hours of my life.
An absolute disaster of a move in almost every season, the team has regressed beyond belief, the staff don't seem to care anymore, the owners are only interested in one thing.
Let this be a warning to any club who dares to move too slowly getting rid of a manager, if we'd got rid of Wenger 5-6 years ago we'd have the CL money for any new manager, we wouldn't have spent most of our cash reserves on duds and there would be an opportunity to rebuild, instead we let it go on because of sum misplaced sense of loyalty towards someone who was leading us into the abyss and this is where we are now.
Didn't help we then were left with a choice of Arteta or Emery at which point Emery looked like a good option, but as someone pointed out somewhere his record prior to coming to us was very questionnable, even if the fans didn't know much about him. Now we've finally got rid of Emery, much too late of course but once again with no real plan, rather than us planning when things were clearly going wrong and talking to different options we've started now, it's a joke.
He's the reason this is happening you do realise that don't you? Had we got rid when we should have 5-6 years ago we'd never be where we are now. The facts are he just wasn't doing the right things for quite a few years and in his latter years he wasted what money we had built up on really poor players on the whole leaving a new manager with nothing. Had we got rid a while back we'd still be in the CL and would have had money for players, the problems had been going on years, every season was the same and the limit of our ambition was 4th under him, the CL was never a serious option neither was the league.
When he left we were already sliding down the league and unfortunately other teams have improved since he left, these days there's more teams challenging for top 4 than before.
Yes the board are to blame for this, but he played his part in this disaster, doesn't help that we then continued to look for the cheap option rather than getting a proven manager though.
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The season before he left we were a couple of points off the top 4 and won the FA Cup.
The season after he left we were a couple of points off the top 4 and got to the Europa League Final.
His last season is the only one where we were far from the top 4
Last season showed he left us with a squad perfectly capable of challenging for the top 4 - we were couple of points away even with the collapse at the end.
You suck the cock of Spurs' squad, they finished a point above us last year., they're not all that.
For years you were saying anyone would do better than Wenger. You were wrong, you have been shown to be wrong
Speculation.Had we got rid when we should have 5-6 years ago we'd never be where we are now.
Wenger was doing some things wrong, agreed. And he certainly stayed too long. But if he left the new manager with nothing then why were you saying any manager would do better if you knew that would be impossible? And if he left the new manager with nothing then why did we challenge for the top 4 last year and get to a major European Final?The facts are he just wasn't doing the right things for quite a few years and in his latter years he wasted what money we had built up on really poor players on the whole leaving a new manager with nothing.
Since then we had another transfer window to sort out issues, we seemed to sign pretty well but we're a mess.
Again. We were a point away last year, and we've spent plenty of money in the last few years.Had we got rid a while back we'd still be in the CL and would have had money for players
The mess this season is all down to Emery - he contrived to make a bad defence worse. He completely mismanaged the Ozil situation. He made Xhaka the captain FFS!
We need to get a proper manager in now. I like Freddie but he's not a manager.
Ozil, Sokratis, Kolasinac, Mustafi, Luiz and maybe Xhaka are useless.
Arsenal need to give Holding/Chambers a chance as the CB pairing with Bellend and Tierney as the full backs.
Martinelli needs to play more, even as a winger.
What a mess it has become.
It all started with the Wenger who was useless in his last season and maybe before that although Emery, this season, has been just as bad which is hard to believe.
A new manager is needed very quickly.
Brendan Rodgers has signed an extension to his Leicester contract today. Poch would rather manage a farm. Allegri wouldnt touch us with a fucking barge pole. It is either Rafa or big Sam to save us from the drop.
How the mighty have fallen. Be careful what you wish for.
Holding Chambers still have a ceiling , can still be redeemed by a clued in manager. The others you mentioned are basically old junk. Maybe too stubborn even to realise how crap they are and change their ways. Far from bringing experience they have brought calamity
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