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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Great array of propaganda techniques on show
    Propaganda for who and to what end?
    He doesn't represent any organisation, he's not in the MSM. He's just some bloke - he's a teacher - with a YouTube channel about science.

    One person on the Internet is wrong on some fringe issues so that proves the opposite argument on all issues is factually correct and, therefore, no further questioning is required.
    Now you're straw manning. He's responding to specific claims about Covid.
    You said earlier that the test for it "doesn't work". He's presented some evidence that while it isn't 100% effective (no test is), it yields false positives less frequently than false negatives.
    So the numbers are likely to be higher than reported, not lower.
    He does also say that for most people this isn't a serious illness though.

    So what are you disagreeing with him about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Propaganda for who and to what end?
    He doesn't represent any organisation, he's not in the MSM. He's just some bloke - he's a teacher - with a YouTube channel about science.



    Now you're straw manning. He's responding to specific claims about Covid.
    You said earlier that the test for it "doesn't work". He's presented some evidence that while it isn't 100% effective (no test is), it yields false positives less frequently than false negatives.
    So the numbers are likely to be higher than reported, not lower.
    He does also say that for most people this isn't a serious illness though.

    So what are you disagreeing with him about?
    Told you it was good propaganda. Worked a treat on you.
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    So we're back to "the real science is the stuff I agree with, everything else is propaganda or lies".
    Literally your only argument, as always.

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    No secret that letters loves him some BBC
    Make 2mrw better than 2day

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    Quote Originally Posted by Globalgunner View Post
    No secret that letters loves him some BBC
    You asked the question, I looked up the answer. No need to thank me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Globalgunner View Post
    No secret that letters loves him some BBC
    It's true, I've seen pictures.
    NOTE: The location of this post has been moved and the thread title (which was previously Wenger is Leaving) has been manipulated by a notorious pro-Wenger moderator. What was previously a message that contained no profanity and made a comment on a real life event has now been manipulated by a deliberately provocative title. An old and crude propaganda and censorship technique.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    So we're back to "the real science is the stuff I agree with, everything else is propaganda or lies".
    Literally your only argument, as always.
    No, we're back to you trying to frame the discussion and drag it into specifics about side issues so the main issue remains unspoken. I was commenting on the propaganda techniques being used, as a point of interest, primarily how they drive the focus away from hard data and towards the new manufactured crisis which is based on counting so-called cases. Although I wasn't even that specific, on purpose, because I knew you'd come back with a demand to know what colour masks should be, or some other irrelevancy along those lines.

    Here's another one for you, from your favoured source. Pay particular attention to a small, rushed admission that creeps in towards the end and entirely destroys the arguments being presented in the initial propaganda piece. If you are a fan of science and logic, of course.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoTkYshxS0E
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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    You asked the question, I looked up the answer. No need to thank me
    There's a funny exchange in Douglas Adams' HHGTTG where Arthur Dent describes the epic voyage he had to undertake to uncover the "public" plans for development of a bypass that unhappily has to run straight through his house. I wonder did he get that idea from the way in which the BBC assigns priority to its news items? Yes, your links are there. No disputing it.

    “But the plans were on display…”
    “On display? I eventually had to go down to the cellar to find them.”
    “That’s the display department.”
    “With a flashlight.”
    “Ah, well, the lights had probably gone.”
    “So had the stairs.”
    “But look, you found the notice, didn’t you?”
    “Yes,” said Arthur, “yes I did. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying ‘Beware of the Leopard.”
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    Just went for a test after a friend tested positive this week. I was with him a few days back.

    My brain hurts now after how high they shoved that swab up my nose.

    I don’t have any symptoms so I’ll be quite pissed off if it’s positive.

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