Coronavirus Pandemic

[Mac76]

The reason I won't take the vaccine is because aliens told me not to. Go on, might as well throw that in while we set up every crackpot theory and knock it down so we can avoid the actual issues. Professor? Yeah.

For a revealing laugh try applying this propagandist's techniques to the whole Covid narrative. Right?

And don't forget to buy his book. LOL.

seriously, he's got no less credibility (and probably a lot more tbh) than any of the numerous YouTube types you throw at us on this board

[Niall_Quinn]

He is a professor.

And you’re doing that thing again: “propagandist”. For who? He’s just a private individual.
He’s hardly straw manning. Some of the things at the start of his video are a bit “out there” but some of the conspiracy theories are too. He’s responding to a lot of the things I’ve seen claimed online about the ingredients in vaccines. The thing about vaccines and autism was widely circulated and has been widely discredited. Famously correlation doesn’t imply causation but it is just a coincidence that life expectancy has gone through the roof since vaccines have become a thing? Obviously antibiotics and general advances in medicine have contributed too.

What in his video do you dispute and what is your basis for doing so?

Come on!

The start of the video is the only bit that stands up, superficial as it is. The start is designed to throw concepts and ideas at the very types of people this rather nasty individual then goes on to berate as being too stupid to understand science. The start is used to show (to uninformed people) how smart this so-called professor is and to establish a hand-holding method that naturally guides you into his main propaganda piece. It's a legitimacy blanket (threadbare) on which to set out his bullshit picnic of nonsense later in the video.

I'm not going to go through every one of his deceptions or shady techniques, I might later but I don't have the time to do it now. But it's a very easy exercise to do yourself if you apply the basics of rational argument. I'll pick a couple of his more egregious deceptions that very clearly show his intention to mislead and obfuscate.

Take his rather magnanimous admission that way, way in the past there were a few cases where vaccines did some harm. Good of him to be so even-handed, right? This is a simple propaganda technique designed to reset the natural tendencies we all have when we consume information and slowly start to realise significant aspects of that information are not being addressed. So you chuck out a sacrificial lamb that touches on the omission but carries a carefully limited significance. Like the mistake with the polio vaccine (a real event) that did limited harm on the one hand but delivered immeasurably greater benefit on the other. That dispenses with the idea vaccines can cause widespread harm.

Well this is a recent video, yes? And this is a professor who claims to know about the subject he's discussing. So I wonder how he managed to miss the widespread carnage being caused by the polio vaccine in Africa and Asia now, today? Why pick an example from so far back in history, when mistakes with a developing science could be more easily understood?

Well, the answer is obvious and the type of person we are dealing with is equally obvious.

Then there's the cuckoo idea the vaccines are manipulating DNA. I'm pretty damn sure that's a theory that was crafted by the pushers themselves so they could use it to tarnish legitimate dissent. Maybe, maybe not. Either way, if this guy really knows anything about the new techniques he'll know very well he's addressing a (possibly) legitimate (probably) manufactured misconception. Of course the vaccine doesn't manipulate your DNA, which is why he can put up very professional emoticons laughing at people who he already called thick. Some professor. More like a hatchet man.

What he doesn't conclude (although hysterically he does actually say it without realising) is the new technology can seed manufactured RNA strands into the immune system - the very purpose of the process. And that procedure, in itself, can cause the immune system to be triggered based on whatever has been seeded. Hopefully for benign purposes, but this guy's idiotic dishonesty in reversing the argument does not in any way address the possible abuse of such drugs. Watch the start, watch his childish but essential accurate overview, then watch his "debunking" of the straw man DNA hilarity he sets up. You can work out for yourself what he doesn't want to talk about and what he wants to distract his "thick" audience from.

One other point, from so many candidates, his smearing of individuals who supposedly tarnish science in pursuit of personal gain. Seriously. This guy's a joke. He knows it. People who know even a little bit about the subject know it. But he's relying on letters after his name and the general ignorance of his audience to achieve his objective. Propagandising those who are susceptible to it.

I'll listen to any pro-vaccine argument with an open mind. I'll even listen to a propagandist like this. But it's really important to be able to tell the difference between the two or you are in a whole world of shit when it comes to pursuing knowledge, if that is your aim. I suppose if you just want to feel comfortable with your choices then this guy is as good as any in telling you what you want to hear.

[Niall_Quinn]

seriously, he's got no less credibility (and probably a lot more tbh) than any of the numerous YouTube types you throw at us on this board

You're a troll aren't you? I don't think I should feed you.

[Mac76]

You're a troll aren't you? I don't think I should feed you.

so you'll stop posting then?

great

[Niall_Quinn]

so you'll stop posting then?

great

Very lame. Wasn't me boasting about goading people by shitposting, was it? Instead of owning your own admission you now try to palm it off. A self confessed troll and gutless too, is there no end to your talents?

[Mac76]

Very lame. Wasn't me boasting about goading people by shitposting, was it? Instead of owning your own admission you now try to palm it off. A self confessed troll and gutless too, is there no end to your talents?

ok, so i made one joke about rising to the bait but in general i'm actually just trying to point out that your late night/early morning hate-filled rants come across like they're from someone who's staying up boozing and shouting at the TV - it's not a good look

[Niall_Quinn]

ok, so i made one joke about rising to the bait but in general i'm actually just trying to point out that your late night/early morning hate-filled rants come across like they're from someone who's staying up boozing and shouting at the TV - it's not a good look

The joke excuse - AGAIN? Just gets lamer. Own your own behaviour before preaching about mine. Hypocrite.

[Mac76]

The joke excuse - AGAIN? Just gets lamer. Own your own behaviour before preaching about mine. Hypocrite.

Oh stop trying to pick a fight, what is it you want me to say, just write it out for me as i can't ( and trust me do not want to) read your 'mind'

[Niall_Quinn]

LOL - the brass neck. You come along with your shit comments and somebody has the temerity to shove it back down your throat. Not content with blaming me for you being a troll, now you want to blame me for the "fight" you initiated. Poor petal.

Btw, this is not a fight. You'd know it pretty damn quick if it was a fight.

[Niall_Quinn]

Pfizer pushing for a rather greedy third shot and then everyone to get jabbed annually, undoubtedly with the Covid hit loaded up with all the other shit they can't sell, like the shitty flu jab.

It's big, big money and all the fundamental problems these pushers were facing with their economic model and garbage products swept away with one glorious state enabled wave of the wand. A more extreme example of the ingoing issue of the state and its role in obstructing free trade and building heavily tilted playing fields where the little guy stands less and less chance. Socialism for the rich, dog eat dog for the poor.