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    Quote Originally Posted by GP View Post
    left man bad
    Not bad, but generally dumb and easily led.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    It’s appalling that this sort of shit is still happening but I think it shows that racism will never, ever be eradicated.
    Not while the left relies on it to secure votes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Not bad, but generally dumb and easily led.


    Says the conspiracy theorist.
    NOTE: The location of this post has been moved and the thread title (which was previously Wenger is Leaving) has been manipulated by a notorious pro-Wenger moderator. What was previously a message that contained no profanity and made a comment on a real life event has now been manipulated by a deliberately provocative title. An old and crude propaganda and censorship technique.


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    I just wonder how much of a spike in Covid these protests could cause.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GP View Post


    Says the conspiracy theorist.
    Conspiracy theory being anything that doesn't come on a spoon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    When you have violent communities that have been plunged into poverty and despair by a succession of divisive and destructive policies, the police are going to react differently than if they are policing a leafy suburb. This is obvious.
    The question is, are the methods used by the police proportionate to the threat they face? Black Americans seem to think not, to put it lightly.
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    A lot is being held off due to this.

    Sony are postponing their PS5 reveal so they can step back and allow more important voices to be heard. Sounds like they don't want to be speaking up about it to me.

    Also, the government are withholding releasing a report why it is that BAME are adversely compromised more from COVID-19 because it will be in bad taste so says a Sky News source.

    Both instances seem like talking bollocks to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WMUG View Post
    The question is, are the methods used by the police proportionate to the threat they face? Black Americans seem to think not, to put it lightly.
    SOME black Americans don't think so. The picture being painted is of blacks huddled in ghettos being abused by the man, and now they have snapped at the injustice of it all. It's a story that leaves out people who happen to have dark skin but have made their way in society and live productive lives. Do THEY think America is racist? Nobody ever asks them. All you hear from are fuel-pouring media pundits and gangbangers, or lawyers from deeply racist organisations posing as social justice campaigners.

    Urban black communities weren't always broken. Divorce rates weren't always sky high, drug abuse wasn't always the norm. Gang warfare wasn't always the main pastime. Gary Webb, among others, did great work on explaining how black communities were plunged into crisis, deliberately. The fruit of those decades is being reaped now.

    Simple stories in the news about poor black man (porn actor, bouncer, knew the cop for years) and wicked white cop (bouncer and knew the victim for years), poor oppressed, enraged community (what DID Obama do for them, other than make their healthcare even more unaffordable?), it plays effectively in an election year. If by some miracle Dementia Joe does somehow win it, everything will calm down and it will all go back to the normal that the left has inflicted on people for decades. Justice in name only will be won, but fuck all will change for the so-called beneficiaries. You give those people real opportunity and they'll vote the other way. You keep them trapped in a vicious cycle and tell them constantly the white guy is to blame and you can tap them every 4 years. Same with Hispanics, illegal immigrants, any minority community. Keep them divided, make them the victim, collect the votes, ignore them the rest of the time.

    Meanwhile, chuck a bunch of cops in there to keep things as quiet as possible until the next election comes around. Can you imagine having to work those places every day? The cops are going to end up as mentally scarred as the poverty-stricken, hopeless people they are supposed to police. It's unbelievable when you see the devastation at the heart of so many US inner cities, and I'm not talking about riots, I'm talking about all the other days. It's about time there was a proportionate response, or any kind of response, to those problems from the social justice politicians that have been running the shitshow for so long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Twice as many whites are killed by cops.
    Yes, but as WMUG has pointed out there are far more than twice as many whites as blacks in the US - you love a good "per capita" stat...

    The disproportionate aspect comes from general stop and search, drug convictions - blacks are far more likely to be subject to these.
    Right. So an issue I see here is that black people are disproportionately affected because crime is linked to poverty and black people are statistically poorer
    I don't think there's any inherent difference between the races in terms of propensity towards crime or violence.

    One thing I don't think helps (he says, veering into controversial territory) is that black people see themselves as black. I don't think white people see themselves as white, and I don't actually think many white people see black people as black. I identify with my gender far more than I do with my race - because men and women are fundamentally different in a way that I don't think black and white people are.

    I have a FB friend who is a "person of colour" as she likes to say and bangs on about these issues all the time. I'm not saying these issues don't exist but seeking equality while seeing yourself as separate feels counter-productive.

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