Black Lives Matter

[Globalgunner]

What you posted is just projection of what you wish this was about rather than what it is. Black people have been protesting in the US since the 50s. It has nothing to do with Marxism. Social housing. Free healthcare free education. This is what abounds in 100 percent of western economies. It is however anathema in the US.where people are happy to see fellow citizens dying in the streets. Marxism is a failed ideology. No sane person wants that. Its inimical to the basic human spirit. Even babies born 3 months ago will refuse to share what they have. Why would you base a economy on people producing stuff and distributing it for no profit

[The Wengerbabies]

What you posted is just projection of what you wish this was about rather than what it is. Black people have been protesting in the US since the 50s. It has nothing to do with Marxism. Social housing. Free healthcare free education. This is what abounds in 100 percent of western economies. It is however anathema in the US.where people are happy to see fellow citizens dying in the streets. Marxism is a failed ideology. No sane person wants that. Its inimical to the basic human spirit. Even babies born 3 months ago will refuse to share what they have.

As I said top marks for marketing.

The mantra is great if there is systematic racism against blacks (there isn't) but as long as they perpetuate this fallacy they can get everyone to chant their organisations name, donate to them, paint the slogan everywhere etc. all in the name of justice.

[Globalgunner]

Nice to know that racism has been solved.. All those police shootings are just rogue cops. So let's at least solve that problem then.

[Letters]

By “all those” do you mean the 14 unarmed black people who were shot and killed by police in the US 2019? Many of whom were fleeing the scene. (Happened to 25 white people, while we are here).
Racism is a thing but let’s deal with the issues which actually exist and not invent ones.
The idea that a systematically racist police are routinely shooting and killing unarmed black people just isn’t borne out by the numbers. Where does this perception come from that black people have to fear for their lives when interacting with police in the US? Obviously you can point to certain instances, I can point to plenty of plane crashes, that doesn’t mean flying is unsafe.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Have the police fly the planes and I guarantee flying will be unsafe.

[Globalgunner]

By “all those” do you mean the 14 unarmed black people who were shot and killed by police in the US 2019? Many of whom were fleeing the scene. (Happened to 25 white people, while we are here).
Racism is a thing but let’s deal with the issues which actually exist and not invent ones.
The idea that a systematically racist police are routinely shooting and killing unarmed black people just isn’t borne out by the numbers. Where does this perception come from that black people have to fear for their lives when interacting with police in the US? Obviously you can point to certain instances, I can point to plenty of plane crashes, that doesn’t mean flying is unsafe.

Fleeing what scene. You have exposed yourself again. Who told you that fleeing a scene gives police a right to shoot people in the back. In which other country is this also the standard. You admit you dont know much about something. Then continue to pontificate about said matter. A policeman was just last week sentenced to 15 years for killing a kid, shot him in the back of the head while in a car. They were having a party and neighbours called the cops. The kids jumped in a car and left in a hurry. No crime had been committed. But one cop trained by Letters no doubt fired into the car. You are just pathetic

[Letters]

Fleeing what scene. You have exposed yourself again.

Actually, you have. Because you have once again failed to engage with the argument I am making, leapt on a side issue and created a straw man.
No, fleeing the scene doesn't mean it's fine for police to shoot people. But if you are running away from an armed policeman who is shouting at you to stop then that may not be the wisest course of action. Doesn't make it OK but it is not the same as sitting in a car minding your own business and getting shot. But OK, let's disregard whether someone was fleeing if it is distracting you, we still have 14 unarmed black people killed by police last year and 25 white. From a population of 330 million. Does that speak to you of a systematically racist police force routinely gunning down black people?

A policeman was just last week sentenced to 15 years for killing a kid, shot him in the back of the head while in a car. They were having a party and neighbours called the cops. The kids jumped in a car and left in a hurry. No crime had been committed. But one cop trained by Letters no doubt fired into the car.

So the policeman did something illegal and is now in prison. Good.
On 22nd May an Airbus A320 carrying 91 passengers and eight members of crew crashes in a residential area of the southern Pakistani city of Karachi, killing more than 90 people. Therefore planes are dangerous. Do you see how that logic doesn't work?

Show me the evidence that black people should fear for their lives when stopped by police in the US. That evidence is not occasional incidents.
Show me some statistics. Here's a site you can use if it helps

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...shootings-2019

[Globalgunner]

Actually, you have. Because you have once again failed to engage with the argument I am making, leapt on a side issue and created a straw man.
No, fleeing the scene doesn't mean it's fine for police to shoot people. But if you are running away from an armed policeman who is shouting at you to stop then that may not be the wisest course of action. Doesn't make it OK but it is not the same as sitting in a car minding your own business and getting shot. But OK, let's disregard whether someone was fleeing if it is distracting you, we still have 14 unarmed black people killed by police last year and 25 white. From a population of 330 million. Does that speak to you of a systematically racist police force routinely gunning down black people?



So the policeman did something illegal and is now in prison. Good.
On 22nd May an Airbus A320 carrying 91 passengers and eight members of crew crashes in a residential area of the southern Pakistani city of Karachi, killing more than 90 people. Therefore planes are dangerous. Do you see how that logic doesn't work?

Show me the evidence that black people should fear for their lives when stopped by police in the US. That evidence is not occasional incidents.
Show me some statistics. Here's a site you can use if it helps


https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...shootings-2019

The only straw man user is you. You make a statement then run away from it when challenged. You say people were being shot while running from police. Now that is no longer the issue since i`ve shown how ludicrous that argument is
Dont use paper sites. The FBI have the official statistics.

The US statistics have no basis in reality. Police are not shooting these people in gunfights. Its only the cops who have guns and people end up dead. Is that acceptable in any other country?. is it acceptable to you.....obviously it is. The strawman again is you comparing flight crashes to shooting black people. You can avoid getting in a plane. Can you avoid being black?

Even your own instance is laughably skewed. Black people are about 20% of the US population so in that instance does 14 black and 25 white seem normal to you?

[Ollie the Optimist]

What you posted is just projection of what you wish this was about rather than what it is. Black people have been protesting in the US since the 50s. It has nothing to do with Marxism. Social housing. Free healthcare free education. This is what abounds in 100 percent of western economies. It is however anathema in the US.where people are happy to see fellow citizens dying in the streets. Marxism is a failed ideology. No sane person wants that. Its inimical to the basic human spirit. Even babies born 3 months ago will refuse to share what they have. Why would you base a economy on people producing stuff and distributing it for no profit

Two people who would have been Prime Minister & Chancellor in December had they won the election wanted that. McDonnell has said he is a proud Marxist!


However, fully accept your point that no sane person wants it

[Globalgunner]

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...olice-by-race/

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-01846-z

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6080222/

These are the top 3 sites that came up on a Google search of FBI statistics on police shootings.
Read all the conclusions. they are the same that black people are being disproportionately killed by police. But again Im sure that you know better than the people who actually live this experience on a daily basis