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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    Shouldn't this thread be closed now, Biden won, Trump lost, nothing to see here, move on etc...?
    The courts and the relevant constitutions will decide what there is to see and who won what, as per the mandated regulations and laws. It's not and has never been the media's place or right to claim this role. Besides, with "baseless" and "unfounded" now becoming "unproven" in the headlines, even the media recognises there's plenty more distance to travel. If the result is so cut and dried it's really not a problem to audit it. Nobody who has any confidence in the result should have a problem with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    The courts and the relevant constitutions will decide what there is to see and who won what, as per the mandated regulations and laws. It's not and has never been the media's place or right to claim this role. Besides, with "baseless" and "unfounded" now becoming "unproven" in the headlines, even the media recognises there's plenty more distance to travel. If the result is so cut and dried it's really not a problem to audit it. Nobody who has any confidence in the result should have a problem with that.
    oh do get over it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    oh do get over it
    You wouldn't be against an audit in the disputed states though, would you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    If the result is so cut and dried it's really not a problem to audit it. Nobody who has any confidence in the result should have a problem with that.
    Basically correct. The only problem is how much time and expense that will take. They spent $3m on a partial recount in Wisconsin and not only found no serious issues, when they did add some extra ballots which were missed they only increased Biden's lead.

    There has to be good grounds for a full audit and none has been presented.

    Sure in public they're tweeting in ALL CAPS, they're waving bundles of affidavits vaguely at the camera, they're citing a load of wild claims and conspiracy theories.
    But when they get into court - a place where they are under oath and there are penalties for lying - they're not presenting any evidence.
    Not because they're not allowed to, but because they don't have any.
    Have a look at the video, he takes it apart pretty well.

    Every conspiracy theory you have alluded to has been debunked.

    Dead voters - someone did a spot check and found they were very much alive.
    More people voted than were registered - that was people simply using out of date lists or, in one case, mixing up two States.
    The USPS dude - heard half a conversation, admitted his "mind might have made up the rest" and agreed when the affidavit which was written on his behalf was read back to him that he couldn't stand by it. The rest of the affidavits are similarly vague or unconvincing.
    Dominion voting machines - the hand recount in Georgia didn't find discrepancies and the rest is a load of wild conspiracy theories which have been easily debunked. The stuff Powell is so wild that even Trump's team have now distanced themselves from it.

    You keep saying the steal is obvious, but you also keep failing to provide any evidence for that assertion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    blah blah blah not fair wah wah wah
    nice company you're keeping by the way

    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/30/p...nce/index.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    nice company you're keeping by the way

    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/30/p...nce/index.html
    Your fake moral outrage notwithstanding, he needs to be put on the leftie list I guess. Though he was probably already on it along with thousands of others. You know the list I'm talking about, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Your fake moral outrage notwithstanding, he needs to be put on the leftie list I guess. Though he was probably already on it along with thousands of others. You know the list I'm talking about, right?
    nothing fake, it's a trademark of the right that they threaten violence - it's not your 'lefties' who parade around with combat rifles

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    nothing fake, it's a trademark of the right that they threaten violence - it's not your 'lefties' who parade around with combat rifles
    It must be so rough to have so little to work with in comparison to the reality on your side of the fence. Peaceful rioting, looting, vandalism, truth and reconciliation committees, censorship, vote rigging, fake news, your whole bag of tricks to haul around and pin elsewhere.

    Interestingly, the most trusted source in fake news is about to get busted wide open. Let's wait and see what spills out. Tonight 7PM Eastern IIRC.
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