Clear the air talks reaction (Burnley, home)

[Ralpheroo72]

Club has been run like we have a blind person in charge of sight seeing tours. We were regressing, and along comes Stan, then we just fell off a cliff. No idea who would save this lot, there’s about 2 players I like, the rest are a bunch of flogs bleeding us dry.

[Marc Overmars]

Elneny's was worse
Xhaka's was at least in the heat of the moment, Elneny's was just petulant, no idea why he stayed on the pitch.

Yeah he should have gone too but that’s refereeing for you.

[Ollie the Optimist]

By the way, the Xhaka thing.
In the “modern game” that’s a sending off but it really wasn’t much.
Back in the day that would have been “handbags” and no one would have even been booked.
And if that’s a sending off then why did Elneny stay on the pitch?

I thought violent conduct was a red card or nothing. So how can the referee give a yellow for that? Also i thought VAR checks couldn’t recommend a yellow so what was the process?

But then again, the referees make it up as they go along, against Liverpool, Mane elbowed Tieney in the face but they didnt even bother reviewing it.

[Mac76]

Elneny's was worse
Xhaka's was at least in the heat of the moment, Elneny's was just petulant, no idea why he stayed on the pitch.

Yeah, they were both red cards IMO, Arteta's lost control

[Letters]

What is the actual point of VAR?
It was supposed to sort this nonsense out, get decisions right and bring consistency.
We have two incidents in the same game which were almost identical, both were reviewed by VAR and one is upgraded to a red card and the other a yellow.
None of this is a defence of Xhaka but honestly, football is such a game for pussies these days. Back in the day that's not even a yellow.

[Mac76]

What is the actual point of VAR?
It was supposed to sort this nonsense out, get decisions right and bring consistency.
We have two incidents in the same game which were almost identical, both were reviewed by VAR and one is upgraded to a red card and the other a yellow.
None of this is a defence of Xhaka but honestly, football is such a game for pussies these days. Back in the day that's not even a yellow.

Well it should be a yellow tbf, but not a red

[Globalgunner]

Has he been sacked yet?

[Niall_Quinn]

Has he been sacked yet?

We're in the wanting period.

[Letters]

But don't you think Letters, that if we had gone for the best of the best, the Alegris and Simones we were all talking about then; maybe the dream of a fan like NQ would have had a better chance of coming true.

Possibly, although I think there's a lot of mess going on behind the scenes which is why I never felt that replacing Wenger was a silver bullet.
I never thought things could get this bad though.
It had to happen and the best thing about any manager now is they're not Wenger - in the sense that they don't come with his baggage and legacy, they're easier to move on from. But while the mess behind the scenes persists I don't know how effective any new manager can be.

[Ollie the Optimist]

What is the actual point of VAR?
It was supposed to sort this nonsense out, get decisions right and bring consistency.
We have two incidents in the same game which were almost identical, both were reviewed by VAR and one is upgraded to a red card and the other a yellow.
None of this is a defence of Xhaka but honestly, football is such a game for pussies these days. Back in the day that's not even a yellow.

except its being run by the same referees who get it wrong so often on the pitch.

it needs to follow the same format as rugby where the TMOs are separate to the referees. While they work together, they are not "mates" as such so have no issue calling each other up on mistakes in order to get the right decision.

here the same referees on the pitch also run VAR so just look to protect each other.