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    Quote Originally Posted by I am invisible View Post
    It's coming, it's coming. This is just us getting a head start on adding a bit of depth before the season even ends. Quality, experienced players will all be waiting to see if we make the CL or not, and we'll probably be waiting to see if we make it too so we know which list we're shopping from (apparently they have 3 drawn up!).

    Hickey looks a really smart buy - we already have the experienced options for his role/s in Tierney and Tomiyasu, but even so he's made 34 apps for Bologna this season so he's pretty much already at a starting level.

    Marquinhos is just a straight up bit of opportunism - I don't even think he's in our plans! If he impresses over the summer then he goes into the squad for next season, otherwise he'll go out on loan to Europe and we'll sell him in a year or two.
    Normally I wouldn't have an issue with this, but we are not in any position to be spending money on 'maybe' players.

    We have been stripped to the bare bones, we need to spend money wisely on quality team building and strengthening.

    maybe if we perform well next season, then we can start to look at 'opportunity buys' - but certainly not in this window.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    I don’t think he’ll stay unless Arteta is willing to stick an arm round him and wipe the slate the clean. You’d hope maybe Saliba is motivated to prove him wrong but when you haven’t felt wanted since day one, I can understand why he’d see his future elsewhere. If we can get a big fee then yeah it would probably be more worthwhile to reinvest that than risk moving forward with a player who has an abrasive relationship with the coach.
    In this situation, it's actually Arteta that needs to prove Saliba wrong.

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    Saliba is not bigger than Arsenal AFC. If he doesn't want to come and join the project, sell him and buy someone who does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IBK View Post
    Saliba is not bigger than Arsenal AFC
    He probably is that's the issue, why should he come back and run around enough traffic cones just to get a start, when he can do the business for another club?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    He probably is that's the issue, why should he come back and run around enough traffic cones just to get a start, when he can do the business for another club?
    I'm not trying to argue that he was treated well by the club, but if we take the emotion away, he was signed as a raw talent - went out on loan and has well proved himself in France. He deserves to be given a chance in our first team (and given that we are in Europe he should have ample opportunity to do so - and provide much needed competition) next season. But if he wants away, we take the money and invest on a player who want's to play for us. No one player is bigger than our club.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IBK View Post
    Saliba is not bigger than Arsenal AFC. If he doesn't want to come and join the project, sell him and buy someone who does.
    That's not the issue though.

    He was told by an inexperienced manager that he wasn't ready / good enough - and then went on to earn player of the season or whatever it was for Lille - having already been earmarked as a top talent.

    So the inexperienced manager should do the right thing, tell him he is sorry and was completely wrong, and ask one of the best future prospect CB's to stay and give him a run in the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KSE Comedy Club View Post
    That's not the issue though.

    He was told by an inexperienced manager that he wasn't ready / good enough - and then went on to earn player of the season or whatever it was for Lille - having already been earmarked as a top talent.

    So the inexperienced manager should do the right thing, tell him he is sorry and was completely wrong, and ask one of the best future prospect CB's to stay and give him a run in the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KSE Comedy Club View Post
    That's not the issue though.

    He was told by an inexperienced manager that he wasn't ready / good enough - and then went on to earn player of the season or whatever it was for Lille - having already been earmarked as a top talent.

    So the inexperienced manager should do the right thing, tell him he is sorry and was completely wrong, and ask one of the best future prospect CB's to stay and give him a run in the team.


    100% he should. We will never know what is said behind closed doors, but if the manager doesn't do this it will be a gross dereliction of duty. The rest I'm not so sure of. Saliba was treated badly no doubt, but I'm not going to kill Areta for underestimating just how much of a stand out season the player went on to have...
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    Quote Originally Posted by IBK View Post
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    100% he should. We will never know what is said behind closed doors, but if the manager doesn't do this it will be a gross dereliction of duty. The rest I'm not so sure of. Saliba was treated badly no doubt, but I'm not going to kill Areta for underestimating just how much of a stand out season the player went on to have...
    i don't think Arteta's capable of apologising to anyone, he's too busy trying to be Mr Big Boss Man...

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBK View Post
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    100% he should. We will never know what is said behind closed doors, but if the manager doesn't do this it will be a gross dereliction of duty. The rest I'm not so sure of. Saliba was treated badly no doubt, but I'm not going to kill Areta for underestimating just how much of a stand out season the player went on to have...
    To some extent yes - but had also had a very good season the first time round, and this season was an extension of that.

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