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    So todays the day, started watching the first episode

    So far, doesn’t tell you a lot apart from Saka boasting to Balogun that he got mobbed by a load of people when he went into Waitrose for a meal deal

    I’ll give Arteta credit, he isn’t quite the passive aggressive prick who is cold with the players that I took him for. I think his team talks fall on deaf ears but he does seem genuinely supportive of his players.

    Same with Josh Kroenke, the guy is a complete Wally but at the same time he does at least seem to be involved on a day to day basis and has a personal relationship with both the coach and the players.

    Those three losses does seem to largely come down to Covid issues and having makeshift line ups where the players don’t seem to know who is responsible for what (which is partly poor tactically on Arteta’s part and partly players not really communicating with each other - Mari and Xhaka exchanging words with each other about how the offside line is meant to hold to deal with Lukaku)

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    Episode 4 - Arteta really showing his bizarre passive aggressive tendencies in regards to Auba. Telling Mark Gonella that he keeps a book of all these player indiscretions, how it was handled so he has something to refer back to.

    So in Arteta’s mind it was punishment for being late to training and being late to training six months earlier. There is no impetus from anyone else to enforce this action other than Arteta, but he gets the team in and says “we have decided” etc as if it was anything other than a unilateral decision.

    He really needs to go, even if we get in the players we need….he can’t be trusted he’s severely mentally unstable.

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    If Arteta cant progress this season after 3 plus years and probably more than £400m spent then he really needs to F-off anyways
    Make 2mrw better than 2day

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    Episode 4 - Arteta really showing his bizarre passive aggressive tendencies in regards to Auba. Telling Mark Gonella that he keeps a book of all these player indiscretions, how it was handled so he has something to refer back to.

    So in Arteta’s mind it was punishment for being late to training and being late to training six months earlier. There is no impetus from anyone else to enforce this action other than Arteta, but he gets the team in and says “we have decided” etc as if it was anything other than a unilateral decision.

    He really needs to go, even if we get in the players we need….he can’t be trusted he’s severely mentally unstable.
    So...you're grumbling that the manager is unilaterally in charge of squad discipline. Isn't that part of the role of manager?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Globalgunner View Post
    If Arteta cant progress this season after 3 plus years and probably more than £400m spent then he really needs to F-off anyways
    Agree with this. Top 4 or bust this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    So...you're grumbling that the manager is unilaterally in charge of squad discipline. Isn't that part of the role of manager?
    The issue is not whether he takes on decisions unilaterally is that he does so and pretends it has been decided as part of a consensus. If you’re going to take a decision like that, own it

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    I think you're reading too much into it. People say "we" when they mean the club.
    There are some valid criticisms of Arteta, this feels a bit petty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    I think you're reading too much into it. People say "we" when they mean the club.
    There are some valid criticisms of Arteta, this feels a bit petty.
    No what Arteta did was petty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Agree with this. Top 4 or bust this year.
    Are you being serious here or sarcastic?

    Hopefully it's the latter but, if not, how would securing the fake achievement that brought the club down in the first place be grounds to retain the manager responsible? The Top 4 Trophy again? No, you can't possibly be serious.

    Hasn't this man been hired to mount a proper title challenge, or is this no longer Arsenal FC?

    The base criteria for success must surely be, at least, being in the hunt for the title during the last few weeks of the season, avoiding the usual catastrophic collapse that crushes all hope of serious competition, utilising the squad properly so we don't have to hear all the usual excuses about injuries, etc, etc. That sort of stuff that so signifies a string of seasons since the last real challenge.

    Why would scraping 4th with the usual margin between us and the eventual champions, followed by an embarrassing and inept showing in the Champions League be considered progress? Because we finished 6th and put in embarrassing performances in the Europa League?

    Is it possible to set the bar any lower?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Is it possible to set the bar any lower?
    It is.

    We could enjoy the excitement of the 'bottom of the table relegation battle'

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