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    Liverpool vs Arsenal 9th April 2023 player rating and match summary

    Ramsdale - 9 - He gets a lot of criticism but despite our bright start the fact that we’ve come away with a point is down to him.


    White - 5 - Is his best position centre back or full back, it makes you wonder when up against the big teams away from home


    Holding - 4 - Actually played ok at first, dealt well with set pieces but as predicted couldn’t deal with pace and gave away a penalty


    Gabriel - 6 Did his best but wasn’t helped much by those around him


    Zinchenko - 3 - I say he’s not a full back but based on his cameo neither is Tierney, both wretched


    Xhaka - 3 - Dawdling on the ball, cannot help himself responding to even the faintest of needling…we just need better. Sell him and bring in Tielemans on a free


    Partey - 6 - Wasn’t terrible but I think all this he can play through the press stuff is a little over stated


    Martinelli 8 - Last season it was clear Saka was our player of the season, now Martinelli is a contender along with Saka, Odegaard and Partey


    Odegaard 6 - Wasn’t at his best


    Saka - 7 - Great first half, just couldn’t get the service and seemed to be tired second half


    Jesus - 7 - If we win the title we will need this guys goals.



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    Tierney 4 - Made to look like a mug by Salah


    Trossard 6 - Hard working but not much opportunity to show anything



    Kiwior 6 - Didn’t really see much contribution good or bad. Throwing him into a game like this seemed harsh



    Well, there’s no question having a two goal lead and letting it slip is deeply disappointing. But sometimes I think we need to appreciate just what we are coming up against. Yes you can question the mentality of certain players (cough Xhaka) but is that any real surprise. Our midfield is not good enough, our defensive cover is arguably not good enough…but when I say not good enough it’s the standard being set by teams like the one we played today who have chewed us up and spat us out for fun in the past.

    Man City are probably the best team in Europe pound for pound, that we’ve gone toe to toe with them for so long is objectively impressive. This idea that City have not had a great season by their standards is bollocks…they are still on course to finish 90+ points.

    And so are we.

    Winning the title was always going to be a white knuckle ride. And it’s not over yet

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    Played so well for 40 mins but then sadly just lost all composure and control. We were dominated in the second half and it was quite disappointing to see us suffocated like that, without really looking like we could have scored a third. I think we settled for 1-2 too early and waited too long to make changes. We were very lucky to escape with a point and Ramsdale deserves all the credit for that.

    It’s not a terrible result but because the margins are so fine it’s definitely titled towards City as it stands.

    I can’t help but be defeatist now, as I have zero faith that we’ll avoid defeat at the Etihad. Praying for a miracle that they drop some unexpected points somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Played so well for 40 mins but then sadly just lost all composure and control. We were dominated in the second half and it was quite disappointing to see us suffocated like that, without really looking like we could have scored a third. I think we settled for 1-2 too early and waited too long to make changes. We were very lucky to escape with a point and Ramsdale deserves all the credit for that.

    It’s not a terrible result but because the margins are so fine it’s definitely titled towards City as it stands.

    I can’t help but be defeatist now, as I have zero faith that we’ll avoid defeat at the Etihad. Praying for a miracle that they drop some unexpected points somewhere.

    I felt that City were favourites for the title from when they beat us at home

    But the main problem we have is that the bar gets set so high for winning the title that it becomes almost impossible against a side that just doesn’t drop points. The context is that city have won four out of the last five league titles


    Only one of those times have they done so getting fewer than 90 points

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    I felt that City were favourites for the title from when they beat us at home

    But the main problem we have is that the bar gets set so high for winning the title that it becomes almost impossible against a side that just doesn’t drop points. The context is that city have won four out of the last five league titles


    Only one of those times have they done so getting fewer than 90 points
    The fact Liverpool missed out against this team with 92 and 97 points says it all.

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    Today was kind of a point gained considering the swing in the game, Liverpool had us on ropes for pretty much the entire second half. I was disappointed with us today, I felt we crumbled under the pressure and if it wasn't for Ramsdale, we would have got soundly beaten today. We started the game really well and were in control for around 40 minutes but then we just crumbled.

    I personally think City are favourites for the title for the simple reason that I don't think we will get anything from the game at the Etihad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    Today was kind of a point gained considering the swing in the game, Liverpool had us on ropes for pretty much the entire second half. I was disappointed with us today, I felt we crumbled under the pressure and if it wasn't for Ramsdale, we would have got soundly beaten today. We started the game really well and were in control for around 40 minutes but then we just crumbled.

    I personally think City are favourites for the title for the simple reason that I don't think we will get anything from the game at the Etihad.
    Its a shame that we've practically made that game into some sort of final for the EPL.

    Well I had said earlier this season that the only way I'd believe we don't deserve to be crowned champions is if we lose to City twice...TBH after the way we handled them at home, I have almost lost faith in getting anything from them.

    Its really a psychological thing, we should have beaten Liverpool convincingly today, even with Holding (who had a relatively good game surprisingly), but once Jesus and Xhaka got their fans going...you could see the belief going out of the lads and they were just playing to run down the clock.

    I am just plain hopeful now, because psychologically, these guys are still pretty weak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE View Post
    Its a shame that we've practically made that game into some sort of final for the EPL.

    Well I had said earlier this season that the only way I'd believe we don't deserve to be crowned champions is if we lose to City twice...TBH after the way we handled them at home, I have almost lost faith in getting anything from them.

    Its really a psychological thing, we should have beaten Liverpool convincingly today, even with Holding (who had a relatively good game surprisingly), but once Jesus and Xhaka got their fans going...you could see the belief going out of the lads and they were just playing to run down the clock.

    I am just plain hopeful now, because psychologically, these guys are still pretty weak.
    Yeah I hear you.

    For the first 40 minutes we were in total control today, Jesus and Martinelli especially were giving them the run around. Once Liverpool scored the momentum swung. The second half was painful viewing, they totally dominated us in every area of the pitch, not only did we perform poorly but it felt as if the players did not believe they could win the game. It was like watching "Arsenal" of a few seasons back hanging on for dear life when ahead in a game, we just retreated and invited wave upon wave of attacks.

    I do think the mentality of the team has improved and do believe we can bounce back so to speak....but our run-in is really difficult. Despite that, if we can avoid defeat at the Etihad and St James's Park and take care of things in the rest of our games then we will be Champions, that's a big if though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE View Post
    I am just plain hopeful now, because psychologically, these guys are still pretty weak.
    I don’t think that’s true.
    We’ve scored plenty of late goals, got lots of wins from losing positions.
    And we responded to The Wobble ™ with 7 straight wins.
    We are a lot stronger psychologically and better at dealing with setbacks than we were.

    This result could be the 2 points dropped that cost us the title or…it could be the point gained that wins us it. It’s going to be crushing not winning it after how good we’ve been this year, but we are against an absolute juggernaut in City. I’m can’t really fault our efforts this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Played so well for 40 mins but then sadly just lost all composure and control. We were dominated in the second half and it was quite disappointing to see us suffocated like that, without really looking like we could have scored a third. I think we settled for 1-2 too early and waited too long to make changes. We were very lucky to escape with a point and Ramsdale deserves all the credit for that.

    It’s not a terrible result but because the margins are so fine it’s definitely titled towards City as it stands.

    I can’t help but be defeatist now, as I have zero faith that we’ll avoid defeat at the Etihad. Praying for a miracle that they drop some unexpected points somewhere.
    This.
    We should have done everything to see the game to half time at 2-0. But no, enter Xhaka being a twat.
    We were cruising at one stage.
    Massively disappointed with the second half, I blame Arteta for not making changes to stem the tide. We ain't getting anything at the Empty-had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chippy View Post
    This.
    We should have done everything to see the game to half time at 2-0. But no, enter Xhaka being a twat.
    We were cruising at one stage.
    Massively disappointed with the second half, I blame Arteta for not making changes to stem the tide. We ain't getting anything at the Empty-had.
    Correct

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