Above all else though, the stupid fucking errors. No matter what system you’re playing you can’t account for dimwitted things like that Saka error so early.
If you’re not switched on from the start then you’re always facing an uphill battle. Conceding early goals and chances is a common theme at home.
Fuckin woeful.
Mind when I came back here I said the team was improving despite Arteta and would've progressed further with a proper manager???
<sips tea>
Anyway...
Today was pathetic. Two DMs, one cover RB, and no striker at home to Fulham is ridiculous.
The favoritism in the squad is toxic and it will inevitably tell. We've already seen it with Pepe, now Balagun and Tierney and I suspect Trossard will shortly be next.
There's just summin off about the set up. Arsenal were fairly close to competing last season and there were 2 very obvious areas to improve, CM and Striker. Our best and only world class players were a DM and and AMC, in Partey and Odegaard and what do Arteta bring in, for the best part of 200m? A DM and an AMC. That's not how you improve a team.
Everyone, including the incels on here who have never kicked a ball knew Havertz was a strange buy and lo and behold, he's looked every bit as out of place as everyone thought he would...except the 2 people actually responsible for identifying and agreeing fees for players.
They've now spent more than half a billion and there's not a single reliable forward in the entire squad. It's a baffling situation that seems to have avoided any real scrutiny.
That's it to even mention the decisions taken when in the lead in games. Trying to shut up shop on 78 minutes when refs are now regularly playing double digit injury time just smacks of amateur hour.
As for ratings, Partey and Odegaard were good again. Viera was MOM despite only coming on later. Everyone else were shite
40 points race is onOriginally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
Completely wrong, how anyone can want to see Havertz in an Arsenal shirt again is beyond me, you.literally can't have actually been watching the game
He's slow, both physically and mentally and serves no useful purpose wherever you put him, while Odegaard is a bit out of sorts that is where I blame the system and in particular not playing White at RB given how well he links up with Odegasrd and Saka when he is played there
And you really do need to get over the Rice hate, I thought he was one of our better players, as did everyone else I spoke to at, and after, the game
I saw the game, you need to get over this peculiar tendency you have of being unable to understand the perspective of people who don’t agree with you. I don’t think that anyone who has ever watched a game would ever risk playing White at right back ever again, because of his inability to deal with pace or prevent crosses from coming in. But that’s just a different opinion.
I get it, Havertz was terrible but I don’t agree that he serves no useful purpose. I have stated until I was blue in the face that we need someone who can hold up the ball and provide aerial threat. Now Havertz absolutely would not have been my preferred option to do this, but the fact is he does offer those things.
It’s funny how you criticise Arteta for not wanting to rotate, but yet you’re so certain this player or that player must never play for us as if somehow we have a bottomless pit of squad depth.
Also please stop using silly emotional words like Hate, I don’t hate Rice but he’s not the right player for us, if we played a more defensive minded game it would make sense but actually playing him is a hinderance in games like Fulham because the space we leave to be attacked with pace completely makes him a pointless addition.
It's not about someone disagreeing, it's when they can't see what's right in front of them that bemuses me
Havertz is patently awful, if a player is awful we shouldn't play him, it's that simple
White is a better defender than some people give him credit for, plua what he offers as an attacking option, linking up witb Saka and Odegaard, is a real benefit
I don't see how you think Rice isn't needed, we need a good DM and that's essentially the role he's playing, plus he plays some good intelligent passes forward
Vieira showed what can be done in that 8 role when you can actually play to a good level
The lineup against Moan U should be as follows:
Ram
White
Saliba
Gabriel
Tierney
Rice
Vieira
Saka
Trossard
Martinelli
Eddie (in leiu of buying a better striker)
We all know it won't happen, not least because Arteta has favourites in Zin and Havertz, plus he doesn't like Tierney and, it increasingly seems, Gabriel - another very good player Arteta is putting on the scrap heap, presumably for some petty reason or other
The most simple thing to do is to put White at RB, bring back Gabriel and move Partey into the middle.
It’s obvious to me that Arteta is trying to accommodate Havertz in an attempt to justify the ridiculous outlay on him.
Do we need to play Partey if we have Rice though?
And yes, completely agree re Havertz, Arteta's partly tied his reputation to that signing
Doubling down I see, difference between has been awful and is awful is a subtlety that escapes you. Has been awful I grant you is pretty clear cut…is awful I disagree with.
White is a good defender but he’s a good centre back so unless you’re suggesting he should start instead of Gabriel or Saliba
Not really sure what the issue is
And although I’m horrified by Arteta’s team selection, the fact that you’d play a plodder like Rice over Partey reassures me that it could always be worse
I think Rice could potentially do Xhaka’s role if he had Partey next to him. He’s got enough energy to play box to box and isn’t afraid of shooting and linking up with the forwards. That’s just my gut feeling.
Partey at right back is just stupid, a total waste of a very good player who was quite instrumental in the good we showed last year. White isn’t perfect but it’s much better for the team if he’s there than Partey.
I don’t know if something has gone on with Gabriel but there’s no reason why he shouldn’t be Saliba’s partner.
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