Our unbelievably shit squad team players

[Niall_Quinn]

We'll finish top 4.

The very fact some of the fans are now aiming for top 4 rather than winning the league says it all. This team is on the way down, from the board, through the manager, the players and the fans. It's a bloody shame because just a few extra quid invested could have given the opposite result.

I find it hard to imagine how anyone can predict we'll be top 4 when an injury to RvP leaves us with Vela and Chamakh up front. And unless we spend some serious money in the next week or two we're going into the season with a defence that can't keep the opposition out, whether it be Barcelona, Newcastle or a pub team from the States.

Top 4 is hugely ambitious. It's not about the results from this pre-season, it's about the awful football we are playing and the clear indication these players still haven't learned anything from past failures. It goes without saying the manager hasn't learned a damn thing.

[fari]

innit

we'll be lucky to finish 10th

judging by liverpool letting in 12 goals so far this pre season, they should be 14th or so.

looks like sunderland or everton for 4th

are you really listening to yourself???! tenth? psshhtt

[Fats]

We'll finish top 4.

No we wont and it makes no difference what players come in.

The team has a fundamental flaw in its tactics.

[Kano]

are you really listening to yourself???! tenth? psshhtt

you're right, i was too optimistic.

13th is likely

[Keith]

Isn't this the end of Wenger's contract? The last dance

[Letters]

No we wont and it makes no difference what players come in.

The team has a fundamental flaw in its tactics.

We have the same fundamental flaw which we had last season, and the season before.
We'll finish top 4 by default 'cos we're better than most other teams but we won't win anything because of that fundamental flaw.

[Power n Glory]

We have the same fundamental flaw which we had last season, and the season before.
We'll finish top 4 by default 'cos we're better than most other teams but we won't win anything because of that fundamental flaw.

And this is why you can't give Wenger much credit for keeping us in the top four. It's not because of his talent, it's down to weak competition. Even when we were winning stuff, he only had Fergie to deal with. If Liverpool, City, Spurs and Villa get there act together this season, we're out of the top four. If we had a couple of teams on our tail week in week out we'd fail to meet the challenge.

[Kano]

same for fergie. he only had one real competitor at any one time in the pl

[Power n Glory]

same for fergie. he only had one real competitor at any one time in the pl

One difference. He's won the Champions League. Twice.

[Kano]

doesn't distract from poor pl opposition

twice in 20 years for those cl titles. guardiola done it twice in three years.

quite easy to twist perception where needed